Some BR forum TdF trends

iainf72

I was curious about which stages get the most input here, so I've done some analysis. This kind of information is probably worth at least 10p to key decision makers at potential sponsors.

Stage Pages Winner
12 - 20 Sam Sanchez
5 - 15 Cavendish
14 - 14 Vanendert
1 - 13 Gilbert
9 - 13 LL Cool Sanchez
4 - 12 Evans
7 - 11 Cavendish
10 - 11 Greipel
3 - 8 Farrar
13 - 8 Hushovd
6 - 6 Biggles
2 - 5 Garmin
8 - 5 Costa
15 - 2 Cavendish

So, trends.

First Cavendish win gets everyone excited, but later in the Tour no one gives a toss. No one is really bothered with TTT's, Rui Costa or EBH.

There were a total of 53 pages of posts on stages which ended in sprints, which when averaged out gives us 8.3 pages per sprint. Stages which were in the mountains, or had hilly finishes, give is 10.625 pages per stage.

So in short, if you're trying to sell something to this mob, get someone who can ride up hill quickly.

pottssteve

iainf72 wrote:

I was curious about which stages get the most input here, so I've done some analysis. This kind of information is probably worth at least 10p to key decision makers at potential sponsors.

Stage Pages Winner
12 - 20 Sam Sanchez
5 - 15 Cavendish
14 - 14 Vanendert
1 - 13 Gilbert
9 - 13 LL Cool Sanchez
4 - 12 Evans
7 - 11 Cavendish
10 - 11 Greipel
3 - 8 Farrar
13 - 8 Hushovd
6 - 6 Biggles
2 - 5 Garmin
8 - 5 Costa
15 - 2 Cavendish

So, trends.

First Cavendish win gets everyone excited, but later in the Tour no one gives a toss. No one is really bothered with TTT's, Rui Costa or EBH.

There were a total of 53 pages of posts on stages which ended in sprints, which when averaged out gives us 8.3 pages per sprint. Stages which were in the mountains, or had hilly finishes, give is 10.625 pages per stage.

So in short, if you're trying to sell something to this mob, get someone who can ride up hill quickly.

Or get some girl in Lycra shorts to advertise it......

luckao

Nothing is more likely to peak my interest than a good descent. I feel like Sanchez should make a break for it on Thursday. Show the mortals of the peloton how it's done.

frenchfighter

Haha, nice.

Maybe take into account also stages falling on weekdays vs weekends.

Tusher

Iain, you are a wonder.

What I'm afraid of is the banality of Cav's wins, if I can use such a term. We're in danger of forgetting 2008, when his first win, although anticipated, was a source of jubilation. Now, his GT wins are perceived as routine.

Which is brilliant, but I think we may be taking him, and British success, forgranted. There was a tour not that long ago when there were no British riders at all.

afx237vi

I did notice that the spoiler thread for the rest day had more replies than the thread for Cav's last win.

takethehighroad

Maybe it has something to do with the author of the thread ?

verylonglegs

afx237vi wrote:

I did notice that the spoiler thread for the rest day had more replies than the thread for Cav's last win.

I think it may have something to do with the stage following an anti-climatic mountian top finish the day before, so many were annoyed at nothing decisive happening the day before, it was sunday and they didn't give a rats @rse about a bunch sprint after 4 hours of tedium. Am I right?

deal

verylonglegs wrote:

afx237vi wrote:

I did notice that the spoiler thread for the rest day had more replies than the thread for Cav's last win.

I think it may have something to do with the stage following an anti-climatic mountian top finish the day before, so many were annoyed at nothing decisive happening the day before, it was sunday and they didn't give a rats @rse about a bunch sprint after 4 hours of tedium. Am I right?

+1, was the only stage I didnt watch, went for a nice ride instead.

derbygrimpeur

pottssteve wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

I was curious about which stages get the most input here, so I've done some analysis. This kind of information is probably worth at least 10p to key decision makers at potential sponsors.

Stage Pages Winner
12 - 20 Sam Sanchez
5 - 15 Cavendish
14 - 14 Vanendert
1 - 13 Gilbert
9 - 13 LL Cool Sanchez
4 - 12 Evans
7 - 11 Cavendish
10 - 11 Greipel
3 - 8 Farrar
13 - 8 Hushovd
6 - 6 Biggles
2 - 5 Garmin
8 - 5 Costa
15 - 2 Cavendish

So, trends.

First Cavendish win gets everyone excited, but later in the Tour no one gives a toss. No one is really bothered with TTT's, Rui Costa or EBH.

There were a total of 53 pages of posts on stages which ended in sprints, which when averaged out gives us 8.3 pages per sprint. Stages which were in the mountains, or had hilly finishes, give is 10.625 pages per stage.

So in short, if you're trying to sell something to this mob, get someone who can ride up hill quickly.

Or get some girl in Lycra shorts to advertise it......

A girl in LYcra shorts riding up hill quickly?

rick_chasey

Cavendish's first sprint win was full of crashes and carnage, and it was an excellent sprint.

Sprints are dull apart from the last 3km, unless it's HTC controlling stuff - then it's totally dull.

jimmythecuckoo

Is there a powerpoint to illustrate this Iain ?

gert_lush

I do love some good stats and this definitely qualifies for 'good stats' chapeau, must have taken some time!

no mention of bertie

LangerDan

iainf72 wrote:

So in short, if you're trying to sell something to this mob, get someone who can ride up hill quickly.

In fact, if you want to sell something, get several someones to ride uphill together and slowly. The majority of the discussion on the mountain stages has been about the lack of someone riding up hills quickly.

Alternatively, you could get someone to fall into a fence, generating large amounts of coverage and goodwill for the poor unfortunate. (But make sure that you have the T-shirt rights agreed beforehand.)

rick_chasey

Surely someone needs to count frenchfighter's pictures?

After all, some brands are going to get more exposure than others.

Pictures of different teams versus thread views etc etc.

inkyfingers

We really do need some good racing for us all to talk about, conversation is getting a little desperate round here!

LangerDan

Rick Chasey wrote:

Surely someone needs to count frenchfighter's pictures?

I think its already factored in. The most succesful thread (20 pages) is the one about Samu Sanchez' stage win. The least succesful is Cav on stage 15 (2 pages)

Cav has no style. Samu wears gold socks.

rebs

Problem with the sprints at the moment. Isn't so much that they are not watched as often or has less interest. It's more that their is only 1 "battle" going on which is who crosses the line first. As oppose to mountain/lumpy stages where more "battles" take place i.e defending the joursey, will/won't the breakaway succeed, Who'll win from the breakaway, How the GC riders are going etc. More happens and more for people to talk about.

It's also much more easier to stick a motorbike cam right up a riders face if they are struggling.... always brings a smile to said rider :P

In the sprints its normally clear that the break isn't going to last, Who wins the sprint and of course the crashes that may take out a GC rider etc.

Gingerflash

Sprints are, to me, a bit like football penalty shoot-outs.

To a degree, you care who wins, and can discuss technique and tactics a little, but it's hardly as interesting as a 4-3 in 90 minutes.

inkyfingers

That's why the opening week was so good in my opinion. There were stages which could have gone either way (i.e. full bunch sprint, reduced bunch sprint or break) and so therefore had some drama..Stage 15 was always nailed on to be a full bunch sprint, with a 90% chance of a Cav win.

iainf72

Final scores on the doors

18 - 38 Schleck
19 - 35 Rolland
12 - 20 Sam Sanchez
20 - 16 Martin
5 - 15 Cavendish
14 - 14 Vanendert
16 - 14 Hushovd
9 - 13 LL Cool Sanchez
1 - 13 Gilbert
4 - 12 Evans
10 - 11 Greipel
7 - 11 Cavendish
17 - 11 Biggles
13 - 8 Hushovd
3 - 8 Farrar
11 - 7 Cavendish
6 - 6 Biggles
8 - 5 Costa
2 - 5 Garmin
21 - 3 Cavendish
15 - 2 Cavendish

I know you all need graphs, so....

Posts for each stage winner (multiple stages summed)





Value per rider (total number of posts / stage wins)



Posts per Cavendish victory

iainf72

Also, some analysis on other things.

Cumulonimbus

Thanks for those stats ian. Ii think that the pie-chart key doesnt show all stage winners but you can work out who they are from the list above.

I imagine that Cav's stage 7 win would have had nowhere near that many number of posts had Wiggins not crashed. Checking back the Wiggins crash started on page 3.

iainf72

Cumulonimbus wrote:

I imagine that Cav's stage 7 win would have had nowhere near that many number of posts had Wiggins not crashed.

I might get around to figuring that out, as I think you're right.

I expect where there is GC related action, the post numbers are much higher, which would indicate stage wins are really just a sideshow and the overall is what we really care about.

Happiness1982

I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say nice post OP. You made me miss my mouth when trying to eat a Hula Hoop at work.

frenchfighter

Nice Iain. Loving the colours.

Looks like the Alps crushed the Pyrenees.

takethehighroad

Note as well we have lives at the weekends. The lowest four stages were on a Saturday or Sunday

PBo

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

Note as well we have lives at the weekends.

Speak for yourself!!!

Happiness1982

PBo wrote:

TakeTheHighRoad wrote:

Note as well we have lives at the weekends.

Speak for yourself!!!