Thrown out of Poundland

mybreakfastconsisted

It's 25 degrees. The missus is wearing tiny denim shorts. She bent over the freezer to get some burgers out and I couldn't help myslef, took her there and then, rutting in a frenzy.




We both got thrown out of Waitrose.

davmaggs

I have to say that I don't see any of the shops mentioned above being unreasonable at all. If you want to cycle to the shops then bring a lock and behave yourself instead of expecting the world to revolve around you.

Shops know that once one idiot comes in with a bike then it is open season, and whilst some of the posters here might be sensible there are a lot who will be nothing but an antisocial pain. Bad enough waiting for some idiot to find their wallet (despite being in the queue for ages) whilst talking on their phone and attempting to load their bags without chucking a bike into the equation.

joelsim

Especially if they go straight past the traffic light lollipops without stopping

Teddy Westside

I'm surprised anyone would simply wheel their bike into a shop without having the sense and courtesy to ask permission first! Unlike a pram, it's a road vehicle (regardless of where you actually ride it) and it's unreasonable to automatically expect a retailer to allow it in.

One person's bike may be spotlessly clean but many others could be wet or have had too much oil ion the chain which could then make the floor dangerous if it drips off. A pram shold remain upright if you leave it for a moment to pick something up. A bike could fall over and cause injury or obstruction. I've probably only once asked to take a bike into a shop and was allowed to do so, but I wouldn't have complained if the answer was no, even if I wasn't happy about it.

Who knows, maybe if the OP had asked (rather than just nodding to the security guard) the answer might have been yes. If not, well that's just life.

If I expect to be going into a shop, I'll carry a lock and if I don't have a lock I'll just have to hope the shop is sympathetic.

snooks

mossychops wrote:

Manager "No one will nick it, this is Stratford"

I worry about people nicking my bike/shoes/watch/bag when I'm sitting on my bike as I go through Stratford :shock:

Makes me wonder in the manager just drives into the Stratford centre, goes down on the lift goes to work, eats lunch at his desk, gets back in the life to his car and drives to a remote village in the north west of Scotland where no one locks their doors and everyone speaks to each other.....That really doesn't sound like East London to me

btw have you see the pound shop at the top of Leytonstone which has the sign on the front:

Pound shop
Everything 99p or less!

AndyManc

I would never think about taking my bike into a shop, BUT, I've been in my local ASDA a few times and on occasions there have been people (kids and adults) pushing their bikes up and down the aisles.

Here's an idea, why not have an area (especially with big supermarkets) where you can park your bike (inside the store) and use one of their locks (supplied by the closely seated security guard) .


Makes the supermarket look enviro friendly .


.

mossychops

Some people will honestly argue anything. I reckon if I start a thread saying I dont like drowning puppies some of them will chip in and say it is actually a good idea.

The bike was clean, I am not an idiot, I did make eye contact with the security guard on the way in to see if he said anything and it was a 47 mile bike ride to Stratford so no I didnt have a heavy lock. The idea that several people will see me with a bike in a shop and then run out and all bring their bikes in is rediculous and hasn't happened in the Sainsbury's next door where I bought my drink.

Perhaps if anyone argueing can actually give a specific problem that a clean bike could cause in an open enough space they might like to put it forward. I wouldn't take a bike into a carpeted shop (as this will make the carpet dirty) or one with tight spaces etc

The point of the thread was to laugh at the idea of someone walking passed my unlocked bike on the street and then going into Poundland and stealing something warranting a security guard. I dont mind being asked to leave and didnt argue with them. Most shops are pleasant enough and customer friendly enough to let me take my bike in and these shops will continue to get my custom.

mossychops

[quote="AndyManc"

Makes the supermarket look enviro friendly .


.[/quote]

Waitrose will lend you trailers for your bike to take your shopping home in apparently.

spen666

AndyManc wrote:

I would never think about taking my bike into a shop, BUT, I've been in my local ASDA a few times and on occasions there have been people (kids and adults) pushing their bikes up and down the aisles.

Here's an idea, why not have an area (especially with big supermarkets) where you can park your bike (inside the store) and use one of their locks (supplied by the closely seated security guard) .


Makes the supermarket look enviro friendly .


.

Why not?

Because as soon as someone lost their bike to theft they would be suing the supermarket claiming they owed the bike owner a duty to care for their bike.

Sadly the litigious nature of people ensure this is unlikely to happen, even though it is a good idea in theory

First.Aspect

spen666 wrote:

AndyManc wrote:

I would never think about taking my bike into a shop, BUT, I've been in my local ASDA a few times and on occasions there have been people (kids and adults) pushing their bikes up and down the aisles.

Here's an idea, why not have an area (especially with big supermarkets) where you can park your bike (inside the store) and use one of their locks (supplied by the closely seated security guard) .


Makes the supermarket look enviro friendly .


.

Why not?

Because as soon as someone lost their bike to theft they would be suing the supermarket claiming they owed the bike owner a duty to care for their bike.

Sadly the litigious nature of people ensure this is unlikely to happen, even though it is a good idea in theory

I feel sure that a clearly displayed disclaimer would sort that out. Seems to work okay for car parks on private land.

Besides - I don't see how it is different in principle (but perhaps extent) to bicycle racks. For example, there are racks provided at stations which are covered by CCTV. Do you know of any cases where a rail company has been sued for theft from such a site? What about bike racks which have been removed from in front of shops in their entirity, complete with bicycles chained to them? Do cyclists have a cause of action against the shop?

spen666

First Aspect wrote:

spen666 wrote:

AndyManc wrote:

I would never think about taking my bike into a shop, BUT, I've been in my local ASDA a few times and on occasions there have been people (kids and adults) pushing their bikes up and down the aisles.

Here's an idea, why not have an area (especially with big supermarkets) where you can park your bike (inside the store) and use one of their locks (supplied by the closely seated security guard) .


Makes the supermarket look enviro friendly .


.

Why not?

Because as soon as someone lost their bike to theft they would be suing the supermarket claiming they owed the bike owner a duty to care for their bike.

Sadly the litigious nature of people ensure this is unlikely to happen, even though it is a good idea in theory

I feel sure that a clearly displayed disclaimer would sort that out. Seems to work okay for car parks on private land.

Besides - I don't see how it is different in principle (but perhaps extent) to bicycle racks. For example, there are racks provided at stations which are covered by CCTV. Do you know of any cases where a rail company has been sued for theft from such a site? What about bike racks which have been removed from in front of shops in their entirity, complete with bicycles chained to them? Do cyclists have a cause of action against the shop?

Huge difference to cycle racks or car parks in this example is that you want supermarket to provide the locks and to provide security guard. This changes the dynamics and liability (potentially).
Why are the locks provided? For decoration or for security? If for security and they do not secure your bike, then people are going to look to sue supermarket for inappropriate lock.
Similar with security guard

Without them, you are back to cycle racks

Anonymous

There's a large Sainsbury's in Collier Wood (South London) that has a dedicated indoor bike lock area.

There's also always security gaurds about, not specificaly for the bikes but you would have to be a idiot to go in there and start cutting a bike lock in front of them.

If I'm out on my road bike I'll oftern stop there.

As for pushing bikes round shops. Not really a good idea. If you let one you have to let all and thinking of my local Sainsbur's in Balham it'd be a nightmare come 5:30pm when all the comuters are dropping in on there way home. It's bad enough without bikes in there.

First.Aspect

RichardSwt wrote:

There's a large Sainsbury's in Collier Wood (South London) that has a dedicated indoor bike lock area.

There's also always security gaurds about, not specificaly for the bikes but you would have to be a idiot to go in there and start cutting a bike lock in front of them.

If I'm out on my road bike I'll oftern stop there.

As for pushing bikes round shops. Not really a good idea. If you let one you have to let all and thinking of my local Sainsbur's in Balham it'd be a nightmare come 5:30pm when all the comuters are dropping in on there way home. It's bad enough without bikes in there.

Has anyone been sued yet? No?

cornerblock

First Aspect wrote:

RichardSwt wrote:

There's a large Sainsbury's in Collier Wood (South London) that has a dedicated indoor bike lock area.

There's also always security gaurds about, not specificaly for the bikes but you would have to be a idiot to go in there and start cutting a bike lock in front of them.

If I'm out on my road bike I'll oftern stop there.

As for pushing bikes round shops. Not really a good idea. If you let one you have to let all and thinking of my local Sainsbur's in Balham it'd be a nightmare come 5:30pm when all the comuters are dropping in on there way home. It's bad enough without bikes in there.

Has anyone been sued yet? No?

Waste of time suing Poundland. The biggest payout they've ever made is........ go on have a guess.

mybreakfastconsisted

If you pressed the point they could seize your bike.

Impoundland.

Anonymous

mybreakfastconsisted wrote:

If you pressed the point they could seize your bike.

Impoundland.

Touché

Jay dubbleU

Looking at the width of the aisles in our local Poundland I don't think you could get a bike down them without causing problems

cougie

25 years of cycling and the only shop I've taken my bike into is er, a bike shop.

Its weird taking it round any other shop and I'm not surprised they didnt allow you. I've clunked my shins on my own pedals so gormless shoppers wouldnt be expecting to look out for them in the aisle when they're looking for whatever it is you can buy for a quid.

Mr Sharky

Just put your bike in a trolley and then wheel *that* around. Sorted.

clarkey cat

I park my bike inside shops all the time. If someone asked that I didn't then I'd take it out. It's their shop after all but it's never been a problem. I don't walk it around though.

t4tomo

mossychops wrote:

Some people will honestly argue anything. I reckon if I start a thread saying I dont like drowning puppies some of them will chip in and say it is actually a good idea.

The bike was clean, I am not an idiot, I did make eye contact with the security guard on the way in to see if he said anything and it was a 47 mile bike ride to Stratford so no I didnt have a heavy lock. The idea that several people will see me with a bike in a shop and then run out and all bring their bikes in is rediculous and hasn't happened in the Sainsbury's next door where I bought my drink.

Perhaps if anyone argueing can actually give a specific problem that a clean bike could cause in an open enough space they might like to put it forward. I wouldn't take a bike into a carpeted shop (as this will make the carpet dirty) or one with tight spaces etc

The point of the thread was to laugh at the idea of someone walking passed my unlocked bike on the street and then going into Poundland and stealing something warranting a security guard. I dont mind being asked to leave and didnt argue with them. Most shops are pleasant enough and customer friendly enough to let me take my bike in and these shops will continue to get my custom.

Two points:

- 47 miles is a fair old trek just to go to poundland - its not that exciting a shop to be honest

- having made such a trek its a bit "cut your nose off...." to then not buy what you originally went for thus wasting the time it took to cycle 47 miles.

Mail order might be a better option for peole like you.

Jason82

I thought this thread was going to be about the op asking the shopkeeper how much every single thing costs and the shopkeeper getting pissed off.

Kieran_Burns

Jason82 wrote:

I thought this thread was going to be about the op asking the shopkeeper how much every single thing costs and the shopkeeper getting pissed off.

four candles?

Jason82

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Jason82 wrote:

I thought this thread was going to be about the op asking the shopkeeper how much every single thing costs and the shopkeeper getting pissed off.

four candles?

In a pack or not?

Kieran_Burns

Jason82 wrote:

Kieran_Burns wrote:

Jason82 wrote:

I thought this thread was going to be about the op asking the shopkeeper how much every single thing costs and the shopkeeper getting pissed off.

four candles?

In a pack or not?

joke <

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> you

Jason82

Yep sorry been a long day and I have to ride home later after a 12hr shift I blame you lot with your shiny toys for making me an insane commuter.

mossychops

I keep getting thrown out of Poundlands, the closest one that will let me in now is nearly 60 miles away. I might stop being so tight and paying the bit extra to get it from another shop in future.

"No, fork handles. Got any pumps?"
"Track pump or hand pump"
"Brown pumps, size 9"

bails87

spen666 wrote:

Huge difference to cycle racks or car parks in this example is that you want supermarket to provide the locks and to provide security guard. This changes the dynamics and liability (potentially).
Why are the locks provided? For decoration or for security? If for security and they do not secure your bike, then people are going to look to sue supermarket for inappropriate lock.
Similar with security guard

Without them, you are back to cycle racks

Bike lockers at stations (and I'm sure other places) seem to work just fine.

Surely a "we give no guarantee as to the security of this lock, but if you don't have your own you can use it", the same as the lockers at gyms/swimming baths.

First.Aspect

bails87 wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Huge difference to cycle racks or car parks in this example is that you want supermarket to provide the locks and to provide security guard. This changes the dynamics and liability (potentially).
Why are the locks provided? For decoration or for security? If for security and they do not secure your bike, then people are going to look to sue supermarket for inappropriate lock.
Similar with security guard

Without them, you are back to cycle racks

Bike lockers at stations (and I'm sure other places) seem to work just fine.

Surely a "we give no guarantee as to the security of this lock, but if you don't have your own you can use it", the same as the lockers at gyms/swimming baths.

No, no, there is a legal subtelty that we are all missing.

spen666

bails87 wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Huge difference to cycle racks or car parks in this example is that you want supermarket to provide the locks and to provide security guard. This changes the dynamics and liability (potentially).
Why are the locks provided? For decoration or for security? If for security and they do not secure your bike, then people are going to look to sue supermarket for inappropriate lock.
Similar with security guard

Without them, you are back to cycle racks

Bike lockers at stations (and I'm sure other places) seem to work just fine.

Surely a "we give no guarantee as to the security of this lock, but if you don't have your own you can use it", the same as the lockers at gyms/swimming baths.

Lockers at stations are totally different as:

1. you supply your own lock
2. They do not have a security guard there to look after your bike

These are the proposals made earlier and this s what differentiates it from the lockers at the railway station