Android anyone....

Turrican

who used the android stuff then?, reasons asking is i got an Android phone and im looking on the market site for apps etc and just bit concerned about the use of some these app and what permission it requires. Well some of these require access to ur phone state and identity, in which it can get ur serieal number and phone number, other apps require to track ur exact location etc.
Like this app the Face book app on market store it says this;

Permissions
This application has access to the following:

Your accounts
manage the accounts list
Allows an application to perform operations like adding, and removing accounts and deleting their password.
act as an account authenticator
Allows an application to use the account authenticator capabilities of the AccountManager, including creating accounts and getting and setting their passwords.
Services that cost you money
send SMS messages
Allows application to send SMS messages. Malicious applications may cost you money by sending messages without your confirmation.
Your location
fine (GPS) location
Access fine location sources such as the Global Positioning System on the device, where available. Malicious applications can use this to determine where you are, and may consume additional battery power.
Your messages
receive SMS
Allows application to receive and process SMS messages. Malicious applications may monitor your messages or delete them without showing them to you.
read SMS or MMS
Allows application to read SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may read your confidential messages.
edit SMS or MMS
Allows application to write to SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may delete your messages.
Network communication
full Internet access
Allows an application to create network sockets.
Your personal information
read contact data
Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.
write contact data
Allows an application to modify the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to erase or modify your contact data.
Phone calls
read phone state and identity
Allows the application to access the phone features of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to and the like.
System tools
prevent device from sleeping
Allows an application to prevent the device from going to sleep.
write sync settings
Allows an application to modify the sync settings, such as whether sync is enabled for Contacts.


So am i being paranoid about it or not im new to this android lark by way but not daft and i like security like on me computer, so i just wondered how secure and safe is this android then say compared to the Itunes apps or shall i not bover with any of them?

Sorry for the long post :?

Andy

I'm not reading that shit.

RevellRider

Just buy an iPhone

getonyourbike

TLDR

lemoncurd

You forgot:

"Allows the application to send your messages to Rebekah Brooks"

Probably.

Couldn't be arsed to read all of your post

cooldad

Turrican wrote:

Blah blah blah

Raymondavalon

Al, I have an Android phone, the HTC Desire

IMO it sucks.. it's a work phone and that's the only reason I'm stuck with it.
Android is overrated, cutting through the Widgets, it reminds me of Symbian with a little more attitude.

Also with Android applications not being vetted [scrutinised and approved] by Google, (uneducated/naive) Android users can be quite vulnerable to Trojan applications. A prime case was an Android application released in China that charged unaware pay-to-go and subscribed users .01 US¢ every time they used it. The authors became very wealthy, very quickly before the Bamboo Curtain authorities arrested them and the application then withdrawn and disabled. It's only a question of time before something like this reappears again.

I don't use any applications from the Android Marketplace at all. I just use it as a phone and for on the move connection to the company Exchange server

On the upside, Android is in its infancy, so there has to be some improvements in the long term, but Google will need to control the applications to prevent Android users from being exploited

My personal phone is a well known brand and I much prefer its native OS, user interface, look and feel to the Android offering

cooldad

This sort of pervy serious phone sh1t belongs in that dustbin called the Hub.

FocusZing

"Trekbuddy" software is good for navigation and track recording on long rides. In other words I haven't got a ffing clue how to help.

cooldad

Anyone who asks for help here is clearly beyond helping.

crazy88

If i was you i'd urinate on the phone right now! Chances are that as you sleep the camera is self activating and taking snaps of your man-snatch and uploading them to www.androidcrotches.com.

You have been warned.

Turrican

Crazy i hardly doubt that as i put the phone right back in the box switched off and shoved in cuboard to sell on i think, and yes it was bit long the post wasnt it :shock: but just wanted to show what some of the things it says wants todo with phone, im not having it compromised like that so MEH, A smart phone just used as a phone well thats seems waste of money as already have a phone to use for that. Oh well may aswell sell it then and use proceeds on me bike.
Other reason have it is the camera is good on it. but i can buy a purpous built camera instead.

So i the Iphones safer then for the apps?, as i wouldnt mind the cycling and fitness ones..

crazy88

iPhones are just better all round, plus they actually look and feel decent (I am awaiting android fan boys to shoot me down).

Out of interest, what android phone is it?

As for the apple app store, it doesn't provide you with all that crap info. There are geeks who vet all the programs better, so they should just all work, and hopefully you won't have to worry about your phone turning into a voyeur cam at night!

Tartanyak

Simply put:
Apple: Safer, more dull. Can't have it if Apple says no, even if it's safe.
Android: More free. Comes with the caveat that you have to be a bit more careful. Just like installing stuff on your PC really.

Northwind

Exactly that. Android phones are like PCs- they're cheaper, do the same job just as well, but will let you f*** it up if you're daft. But the flipside of that is, it'll do things Apple won't let you.

If you don't want to use the facebook app- which is unusually invasive and requires you to give access to everything like the locators even if you switch it off in the app- then you can just access it as a website btw. Most apps won't require anything like as much access.

craker

Got wifey a ZTC Blade (Orange San Francisco) for £75. Wiped Orange's modded OS and put a homebrew Android version on it (faster and cleaner). (and really easy).

TBH I'm not the main user but she seems pleased as punch with it and there are lots of decent free apps to be had (with caution obviously). At least the OS tells you what access to give apps rather than a big fat Yes button that you effectively get with, say, peecees.

Camera
Videos
GPS (more sensitive than my Garmin)
Sat Nav
Mapping software (have got an app for my multimaps)
Browser

There's an app. called widgetzoid which allows you to turn things like wifi and data connection on and off really easily; some apps seem to want to turn on the data connection and update themselves if your not careful.

The main event here is the price £75 on pay as you go is a bit of a bargain.

projectsome

If you're not the type of person to hack in to your phone then get the iphone 4... (almost bought the iphone 4 but it's not for me)

I like hacking in to mine and changing everything, hence the android.

Kaise

i have the galaxy s and to be frank, its w*nk!

the battery doesnt last a day
the apps are cack
the interface is an inferior iphone
the touch screen is less responsive than my old iphone
the music player is arse
the pastic its made from is dog turd

but it does make phone calls which my iphone 3gs certainly had problems with!

next phone will be an iPhone!

the only positive is i can store porn on it easier, it has "becum" my Mobile Filth Device (MFD)

crazy88

But is your porn lots of little green robots getting jiggy and spraying each other with semen? If so, that's not what i want to see!

Tartanyak

My other half has an S2 and it sounds like it's a huge jump from that one.
Although it's a massive screen (not for everyone) she regularly gets a day and half/ two days out of it (though, that's a close one). The touch screen's wonderful and it's played everything audio or video we've thrown at it with no conversion.

The apps, well... Some are bad, some are good. Same as every phone. Just look how many apps there are on the apple app store to turn your iPhone into a torch or mirror

I think that Android 2.3 makes a large difference to battery life compared to 2.2. Not sure what interface there is on there. I think it's a Samsung attempt. I like the HTC one much more that the iPhone interface.

projectsome

problem solved

crazy88

For porn? I think not.

Kaise

whats wrong with my little green robots!?

i like them, they like me, leave us alone!

Turrican

what the :shock: since i was last on now its talk of the little green robot porn haha.
Projectsome yes that a awesome phone, simple and prob reliable haha

Kaise

this is the crudcatcher

montevideoguy

I sold my HTC Desire last week $450 beans and will be getting a new phone in couple of months (wife's cousin is off to the US then...prices here are too high otherwise) and I have to say there has never been so much choice. New iPhone is rumoured to be coming out next month, top notch Android phones out (HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S2), Windows phone's new Mango update (with phones to go with it) and even the HP Palm pre 3 (webOS is the best phone OS I've used)...means choices choices (and I'm very undecided)

As for the question regarding the permissions. Look at it as being similar to the permission requests you get with Facebook apps. I only ever installed apps from bigger, more trustworthy companies as android comes with the same risks as using a Windows based PC (maybe even more risks as many people don't assume there could be malware for phones). Just apply common sense and you'll be fine.

crazy88

Montevideoguy wrote:

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I can't see that happening in hereJust apply common sense and you'll be fine.