Arse cam extreme!!!

montevideoguy

May have been posted before but it's a decent collision

http://youtu.be/n3uvfySjjSY?t=1m20s

While he comes across as an anal bell end, I do find myself falling on his side (though this is a good advert as to why a bell is actually a handy thing)

RevellRider

At least it was something big and soft he hit

The Northern Monkey

What an absolute clumpet.

I'm sorry but thats entirely his fault.

Fully-sprung

No, it's the womans fault. The cyclist went to the right to avoid her and she turned without looking. If you were on a motorway on the slow lane coming up behind someone else and you went into the fast lane and started to overtake and then they came into the fast lane and you crashed into them it would be their fault because they didn't bother to check what was behind them first.

The Northern Monkey

You're suposed to anticipate whats happening ahead.

If you crash into the back of someone (ie in your motorway example above) then the accident is your fault.

I take it you don't drive?

welshkev

i'm not so sure that was all his fault, i think he was going a little bit fast and could have shouted a warning or something..but she did just run towards that turning without looking :?

6 and 2 3's i reckon

Briggo

Yes you're supposed to anticipate the drivers ahead but if someone doesnt look and just pulls over into the fast lane right at the point your're overtaking then how the hell are you ment to anticipate that.

No one would overtake anyone if that was the case. Thats the old insurance rule of whoever goes into the back of someone is instantly liable, which isn't always the case

If someone was overtaking someone on a single carriageway but they didn't look in their rear view/side mirror to see that another car was already overtaking, that person overtaking has right of way so then the person who blindly pulls out infront and causes the collision is liable.

It's just as much as her responsibility to be aware as it was his to slow down a little, he was going too fast on a stupid electric bike.

He needed a MTB so he could have gone to that section to the right of her np

jay12

did he even brake? maybe he thought screaming would slow him down?

Fully-sprung

jay12 wrote:

did he even brake? maybe he thought screaming would slow him down?

It does, but the amount that it does is unmeasurable, think of it, you're propelling air out of your mouth, so it must sloe you down.

jay12

Fully-sprung wrote:

jay12 wrote:

did he even brake? maybe he thought screaming would slow him down?

It does, but the amount that it does is unmeasurable, think of it, you're propelling air out of your mouth, so it must sloe you down.

*slow

and also facepalm

Fully-sprung

jay12 wrote:

Fully-sprung wrote:

jay12 wrote:

did he even brake? maybe he thought screaming would slow him down?

It does, but the amount that it does is unmeasurable, think of it, you're propelling air out of your mouth, so it must sloe you down.

*slow

and also facepalm

Dammit.

nicklouse

shit she needs some mirrors and indicators.

I was not expecting her to move then.

Raymondavalon

That's the Bristol to Bath cycleway
I used to ride that quite often, it's just on 14 miles either way and the roadies fly past me (on my rigid, slick shod commuter MTB) like I'm stood still.
I've had two offs on that route, one with a little Staffordshire terrier which wasn't on a leash.
The second incident was a young lass, about 11 or 12 on a BSO who cut across me as I was passing her. Crash!

The walkers are the issue there, it is technically both a cycleway and walkway. Sadly the walkers often walk abreast and get in many a cyclists' way. On a summer's afternoon that place is insane, you literally have to weave between the walkers

Anonymous

The Northern Monkey wrote:

What an absolute clumpet.

I'm sorry but thats entirely his fault.

Very much this. There is no precedence for right of way on shared paths - he's just being ignorant, frankly.

The Northern Monkey

I imagine his ideal car would be a BMW tbh.

Northwind

The Northern Monkey wrote:

If you crash into the back of someone (ie in your motorway example above) then the accident is your fault.

I take it you don't drive?

If you're passing someone and they pull out into you without looking or indicating, that's their fault not yours. Simples. He didn't just ride into the back of her did he.

Course, different rules apply for this. To me he was going too fast, and her friend deserved a kick in the ovaries. But if someone steps directly in front of you without looking, on a path that's so busy with cyclists, they're a moron.

Anonymous

somebody going that quickly, on a path that's so busy with pedestrians, they're a moron, too.

The Northern Monkey

He was riding far too fast considering there was pedestrians and gave no warning that he was coming past until it was too late though.

Its a shared path, he didn't have right of way and should have scrubbed off some speed.

Are you saying you mirror, signal, manoeuvre while walking?

Northwind

yeehaamcgee wrote:

somebody going that quickly, on a path that's so busy with pedestrians, they're a moron, too.

Aye. But 2 morons do not make a right.

Mmm, that doesn't scan too well does it! People get so obsessed about fault though, as if it's all his or all hers. He was acting recklessly but she was acting dangerously. If he'd been going at 2mph she could still have stepped into him, just oblivious.

The one-handed nonchalent guy at 3.24 is the hero of the piece though.

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Are you saying you mirror, signal, manoeuvre while walking?

Uh no, I'm saying your motorway comparison was cobblers. But if I was on that path, damn right I'd look before I leapt, have to be a cretin not to.

The Northern Monkey

Northwind wrote:

But if I was on that path, damn right I'd look before I leapt, have to be a cretin not to.

Mm.. i bet.

Anonymous

Northwind wrote:

If he'd been going at 2mph she could still have stepped into him, just oblivious.

If he was going at walking pace then it would just have been a little bump.

Northwind

For her, sure. For him there's still a decent chance it'd have him off, doesn't take that much does it- just a clipped bar or a bad evasive.

Way I call it is, him going too fast was only a problem when combined with an idiot. But, her being an idiot could have been a problem for anyone.

Anonymous

Northwind, put it another way then, if he was going at a reasonable speed, he could have stopped in time.

Northwind

If he was going slower, then when she stepped across, he'd have been half a mile behind her

But, thing is, he could still have been going at a reasonable speed and have her step right in front of him at the worst moment. I've had that jogging, and I'm not quiet when I job, I sound like a broken accordian falling down a flight of stairs... But people are oblivious to their surroundings and meander around paths at random and sometimes, someone steps right into you and all you can do is bounce off.

So hopefully they'll both learn something... Though he does seem like a fud so probably not.

Daz555

I have twatted that cyclist right in the face as soon as I got back to my feet.

His road analogies about not looking before turning are completely destroyed by his attempt to pass another vehicle at a junction - motorcyclists know this to be a quick way to the grave.

Too fast & too stupid sums the guy up perfectly.

montevideoguy

My full take on it is that he should have given plenty warning before passing. She was in the wrong for just stepping out and I'd give her the blame for it. In saying that, he has to realise that 90% of pedestrians are idiots and make allowances for that

bentes

I can't believe there's even a discussion about this!

Walkers, like kids and animals are unpredictable, and if you're going on a path that is shared with any of them you must ride responsibly. That guy was being an idiot by riding at that speed so close to people that had their back turned to him. And a complete moron for not even apologising to the lady. He eve posted his idiocy on the youtube! That guy deserved a ticket at least.

If you want to ride at that speed, go on the road or somewhere far from people!

Raymondavalon

Montevideoguy wrote:

My full take on it is that he should have given plenty warning before passing. She was in the wrong for just stepping out and I'd give her the blame for it. In saying that, he has to realise that 90% of pedestrians are idiots and make allowances for that

For that very reason my commuter has a bell! That Bristol-Bath cycleway where this video was taken is an obstacle course on weekends. I've ridden it dozens of times and seen quite a few collisions and many a close call between pedalers, walkers, fellow cyclists and animals.

foxc_uk

Northwind wrote:

But if I was on that path, damn right I'd look before I leapt, have to be a cretin not to.

^ this with dauphinoise potatoes

As a driver, cyclist and snowboarder, no matter what form of transportation I'm using, I always look before making any change of direction. I do wish other pedestrians would do the same when I'm out and about shopping etc. Common sense surely?

supersonic

Way too fast for the conditions ie lots of walkers! Even if he would have missed her, it would have been by mere inches.

I always slow for peds, and indicate what side I am passing if they have not heard me. And I don't pass until they acknowledge me.

supersonic

Infact if some twat rode into the back of me, I'd ram their seatpost so far up their arse that it would give a whole new meaning to 'minimum insertion'.