Saddles and numbness

MountainMonster
MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
edited July 2011 in Road beginners
I went for a nice 60kmkm ride yesterday, my rear itself felt perfectly fine, and completely comfortable on my saddle. There was, however, after about 40km a complete feeling of numbness within the "package region." I went through and checked things out, the saddle is at a very comfortable height, and is currently set up properly (i.e. flat).

Is there anything I should try to get the numbness to go away, as it interfered with a bit of loving last night. Would maybe angling the front of the seat down a tiny bit maybe help?

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  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    IWould maybe angling the front of the seat down a tiny bit maybe help?

    Possibly, try it.

    Its lack of bloodflow around the perineum, so moving around and stand every now and then will help too.
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    danowat wrote:
    IWould maybe angling the front of the seat down a tiny bit maybe help?

    Possibly, try it.

    Its lack of bloodflow around the perineum, so moving around and stand every now and then will help too.

    I live out in the mountains, so I do quite a bit of standing climbing as well as cruising out of the saddle to reduce stress on the rear. Will try the angling in a little while. Got another 90km ride tomorrow to do, so a good testing ground!
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    I have the same problem, although not so much when riding my road bike, but the issue arrises when in the aero TT tuck, some much so that I used to have my saddle pointing right down to get through a 25.

    In the end I got so fed up with it, I brought an Adamo saddle, which is numbness free 8)
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    I'm yet to find a saddle that doesnt make my perenium go numb.

    Threw on a cheapy Charge spoon last week and tipped the nose down a few degrees and this definately seems to help. Just takes some tweaking in finding the right angle between comfort and not getting tipped off the front/too much weight on your upper body.
  • noidea123
    noidea123 Posts: 68
    Suffered the same but got myself a specialized bg romin. Did my first ride one it yesterday, just under 80 miles, and no numbness at all. ......only problem now is sores!
  • kieranb
    kieranb Posts: 1,674
    Is your saddle the right width? your sit bones (ischial tuberosities) should be supported by the saddle. After a few saddles I found one for me, luckily it was a cheap rido saddle, but not everyone's cup of tea in either comfort or style.

    from Seldon Brown:
    The "Two-Bump Problem"

    Imagine sitting down on a coffee table. Your weight is concentrated on the two bumps of your "sit bones", also known as the "ischial tuberosities." These are the parts of your body designed to bear your seated weight. Most cases of saddle-related discomfort arise because the load is carried on the soft tissues between the sit bones.

    Imagine placing a soft pillow on top of the coffee table. Now, as you sit down on it, the sit bones compress the pillow, which yields until the sit bones are almost on the table surface again. The difference is that now, you have pressure in between your sit bones from the middle part of the pillow.

    In the same way, a saddle with excessively soft, thick padding can make you less comfortable by increasing the pressure between your sit bones.
  • Paul057
    Paul057 Posts: 167
    I don't suffer numbness but i do get very sore around my perineum. I wear a pair of padded lining shorts and padded bib shorts too but it's still uncomfortable. I've only been riding a month or so and i've just assumed it will toughen up and i'll get used to it. Is this the case or does everyone hurt down there? I did 60 miles yesterday, and the thought of getting on my bike today fill me with dread due to soreness :(
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    Paul057 wrote:
    I don't suffer numbness but i do get very sore around my perineum. I wear a pair of padded lining shorts and padded bib shorts too but it's still uncomfortable. I've only been riding a month or so and i've just assumed it will toughen up and i'll get used to it. Is this the case or does everyone hurt down there? I did 60 miles yesterday, and the thought of getting on my bike today fill me with dread due to soreness :(

    Your butt does get used to it after a while. Once you really rack up the miles your rear end toughens up. My butt is now fine for riding, but the nerves get pinched or something.

    I havn't thought about changing saddle, unfortunately due to funds, but I am thinking of switching back to the specialized romin saddle I had on my MTB, but unfortunately no longer have anymore :(

    Are the cut outs in the center of the saddle also good to have? Does that relieve pressure at all?
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    Hey guys, after a bit of advice. Has anyone experienced this quite recently, and had it continue longer than a week?

    I posted about this last week, and since then the numbness is still there, and having a few other problems due to the saddle. I have switched the saddle out, but the problems still exist. Any recommendations of a way to try to cure this?
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    You still have a numb little chap?, I'd probably take a trip to the GP!
  • crumbschief
    crumbschief Posts: 3,399
    If the numbness is only when you ride then saddle position or a different saddle is usually needed,if it's a long ride i have found it can last into the next day as well,for me and maybe you it's down to the nose of the saddle being too wide and high,more so if you spend time in the drops as that pushes even more in that area.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    danowat wrote:
    You still have a numb little chap?, I'd probably take a trip to the GP!

    ^^ This man!

    No way should you still be numb after a week...I get numbness but it only normally lasts 2 or 3 hours. Bike fit and or saddle but either way get yourself to the quack! I assume you have swapped your saddle out for one with a pressure relieving channel?
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    Fenred wrote:
    danowat wrote:
    You still have a numb little chap?, I'd probably take a trip to the GP!

    ^^ This man!

    No way should you still be numb after a week...I get numbness but it only normally lasts 2 or 3 hours. Bike fit and or saddle but either way get yourself to the quack! I assume you have swapped your saddle out for one with a pressure relieving channel?

    Yeah, i've been able to borrow an extra from a family member, which seems to be doing the trick. Not gotten much better, but not any worse. No discomfort from those rides. Spoke to my father in law, who has been riding for years, and referred me to a doctor whose basically a gynocologist for dudes, sorry I don't know the term in english. Hopefully should sort it out.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Male Chicken-doc? (won't let me put c*ck, silly swear filter)
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    danowat wrote:
    Male Chicken-doc? (won't let me put c*ck, silly swear filter)

    Yeah, in german they are called urologists, not sure if same in english.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Yup, same here, last time I saw one, he jammed a sodding great camera up my poor old chap!!!!
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    ^^ EEEeeewww Nasty!

    MM dont be stressing about an ITV4 camera crew crawling down your love pump at this stage, but do post up how it all goes...

    Incidently, did you get this problem when you rode mtbs??
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    I didn't get it with MTB's no. Bush I never really was much in the saddle, climbed out alot, or had 95% of my weight on arms most the time.

    Well, hope I survive the doctor!
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    My visit was for a totally non-cycling specific reason :lol:
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    danowat wrote:
    My visit was for a totally non-cycling specific reason :lol:

    Ahhh thats a shame your missus gave you a dose...Meanwhile, back to bike related problems....
  • StageWinner
    StageWinner Posts: 202
    Not a cheap solution, but look into Selle SMP saddles. MASSIVE central cut-out. But they do the trick of taking all pressure of the perineum.