Tyre advice (sorry!)

h34e0f
h34e0f Posts: 370
edited June 2011 in MTB buying advice
Currently running 2.2 Continental Mountain Kings on my Core. Used to ride primarily XC and trails. I've had the bike since October and have just worn through my second set of tyres. Made for an interesting ride in the mud yesterday...

I've been happy with the performance of the tyres overall, but disappointed with their strength. Basically looking for something similar (an all-round tyre) of a harder construction that will last longer.

Any ideas?

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  • ricardo_smooth
    ricardo_smooth Posts: 1,281
    maxxis minion DHF single ply..... end of topic! :lol:
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Maxxis high rollers or Panaracer Fire XC Pro
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  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    I was thinking about the Fire XCs. They seem popular. Will both those options be suitable as an all-rounder? Can't be doing with changing tyres as soon as it rains :wink:
  • CycloRos
    CycloRos Posts: 579
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  • for the price i would order a pair of the nobby nics!
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  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    h34e0f wrote:
    I was thinking about the Fire XCs. They seem popular. Will both those options be suitable as an all-rounder? Can't be doing with changing tyres as soon as it rains :wink:

    Nope the Fire XC's are a great all rounder.
    Tomac Synper 140 Giant XTC Alliance 1
    If the world was flat, I wouldn't be riding !
  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    Pudseyp wrote:
    h34e0f wrote:
    I was thinking about the Fire XCs. They seem popular. Will both those options be suitable as an all-rounder? Can't be doing with changing tyres as soon as it rains :wink:

    Nope the Fire XC's are a great all rounder.

    Yeah they do seem a very popular choice. They also come in Blue which would match my bike beautifully :P
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Blue folding here for £50 the pair
    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Panaracer-Fire- ... _15929.htm
    Tomac Synper 140 Giant XTC Alliance 1
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  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    Pudseyp wrote:

    Or £37.98 on eBay ;) But thanks! Will have to wait til I get back from holiday though
  • aidso
    aidso Posts: 493
    Im running a pair of Panaracer Rampage tires as my alll-rounders. I have Nobby NIcs but they're only good for straight-lines when I ride them.

    £40 for 2 tyres and 2 tubes:
    http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop ... -OFFER.htm
  • *AL*
    *AL* Posts: 1,114
    aidso wrote:

    £35.96 if you join Merlin VIP :wink:
  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    I'm leaning towards the Fire XC's I think at the moment, but just found out there is a Pro and non Pro version (according to some websites), I thought they were all Pro's. What's the difference? There aren't any non-Pro models on the Panaracer website...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Big fan of the grip of Conti mountain kings here. But they get slashed far too easily on the slate and flint underwheel here, so I'm considering trying something else.
    Really not sure what to get, but certain it won't be a Schwalbe.
  • CycloRos
    CycloRos Posts: 579
    h34e0f wrote:
    Pudseyp wrote:

    Or £37.98 on eBay ;) But thanks! Will have to wait til I get back from holiday though

    The only thing I would say against the Fire-XCs is that they're pretty small (at 2.1), and don't offer much in the way of comfort when compared to something like a 2.25+ Nic.

    They're both good tyres imho and you can't go wrong with either
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  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    CycloRos wrote:
    h34e0f wrote:
    Pudseyp wrote:

    Or £37.98 on eBay ;) But thanks! Will have to wait til I get back from holiday though

    The only thing I would say against the Fire-XCs is that they're pretty small (at 2.1), and don't offer much in the way of comfort when compared to something like a 2.25+ Nic.

    They're both good tyres imho and you can't go wrong with either

    Well I'm running on 2.2's at the moment, and they're fine comfort wise. A loss of .1 of an inch can't make that much difference? At the end of the day, it's a mountain bike; if I wanted a smooth ride I'd get a road bike and only cycle on newly-laid tarmac 8)
  • CycloRos
    CycloRos Posts: 579
    Point well and truly missed :D

    it's not just about the manufacturers claimed measurements that make a difference - there's the tyre profile, width, compound, tread etc all make a huge difference to grip, speed and comfort.

    a tyre which allows a greater volume of air will allow you to run lower pressures which generally increases grip. comfort is a by product of a decent tyre.
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  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    CycloRos wrote:
    Point well and truly missed :D

    it's not just about the manufacturers claimed measurements that make a difference - there's the tyre profile, width, compound, tread etc all make a huge difference to grip, speed and comfort.

    a tyre which allows a greater volume of air will allow you to run lower pressures which generally increases grip. comfort is a by product of a decent tyre.

    Fair enough. The main thing putting me off going above a 2.2 is the amount of road work I do on my bike. It's my main form of transportation (unfortunately, due to a silly incident on my part). And I'm thinking a 2.25+ would be getting a bit OTT as they are usually more of a DH or at least, primarily off-road tyre and less of an al-rounder?
  • CycloRos
    CycloRos Posts: 579
    ah well you didn't say anything about riding on the road, that changes everything...
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  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    CycloRos wrote:
    ah well you didn't say anything about riding on the road, that changes everything...

    I guess my definition of cross-country and all-rounder are slightly different
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    h34e0f wrote:
    the amount of road work I do on my bike.
    AH!
    Yes, road riding will destroy a mountain king in a week or so! :shock: The tread pattern, although very well suited off road, wears down incredibly quickly.
    Try something like Maxxis' Minions, in a 60A or even 70A compound. They should roll quite well on the road, and also offer reasonable grip off road.
  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    h34e0f wrote:
    the amount of road work I do on my bike.
    AH!
    Yes, road riding will destroy a mountain king in a week or so! :shock: The tread pattern, although very well suited off road, wears down incredibly quickly.
    Try something like Maxxis' Minions, in a 60A or even 70A compound. They should roll quite well on the road, and also offer reasonable grip off road.

    Great, thanks.

    My road use has dropped recently as I have moved back with my mother for the summer until I start back at Uni in September. Prior to moving back I was doing 100m + a week commute on road, which shredded my rear tyre FAST!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Have you considered getting two sets of tyres? I put Halo Twinrails on my bike (when I can remember/be bothered) for commuting stuff, which lets me keep my sticky knobbly rubber for off-road use.
  • h34e0f
    h34e0f Posts: 370
    Have you considered getting two sets of tyres? I put Halo Twinrails on my bike (when I can remember/be bothered) for commuting stuff, which lets me keep my sticky knobbly rubber for off-road use.

    Yes have considered this, and very nearly bought a set of Twinrails, but I'm too lazy to swap them over all the time! And over the summer I'll only be doing a few miles a week on-road so things should be okay. When I move back down to Plymouth however I will definitely consider getting a road set.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Twinrails are actually pretty good summer (well, ok, DRY WEATHER :lol: ) tyres for trail riding too.
  • JamesS156
    JamesS156 Posts: 68
    Kenda Nevegals.