Maxxis Tyre Compounds?

ThePriory1978
ThePriory1978 Posts: 563
edited June 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
Can someone please explain the difference between the Maxxis 62A eXCeption Series compound and the 70A compound?
Thanks.

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  • Matt_
    Matt_ Posts: 82
    I think the lower the number, the "stickier" the tyre is. Higher the number, the faster rolling it is.
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Yep, I think it's called the durometer reading. A higher number is harder, less grippy but lasts longer, lower number is softer, grippier and wears out more quickly.
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    bang on.

    70a is very hard, will last ages and be fast, but have sod all grip

    Maxxpro is 60a and is a good compromise... Exception is 62a so very similar to Maxxpro, but I think the main difference is in the casing not the compound.

    Supper Takki is 42a - very grippy, but slow and wears super fast

    Supper Slow Reezay is 40a, It's a very, very soft compound designed for DH racing in the wet... you really wouldn't run it for day to day use...

    That's just maxxis, but it gives a good guide to other brands too

    Other brands use different compounds and have different names...

    Some brands use a double or triple compound, this means that the centre section of the tyre is harder than the shoulders (usually) This gives excellent speed and a good rate of wear, while maintaining sticky shoulders for good cornering traction.

    Some brands also use a double layer technology that lays a harder compound over a soft core... this resits wear well, while allowing the tyre to deform and give good grip, It works well on rocks and wet trails, but struggles on wet shiny surfaces such as roots.

    Other brands will use a "special" compound such as Continental's Black Chilly - this is a very clever compound that is both very grippy and quite fast/hard wearing. I'm not really sure how it works, but I believe it uses a Layering system.

    As a general guide to all this stuff though, the lower the number the grippier it will be, but the slower and faster wearing it will be.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    joshtp wrote:
    Other brands will use a "special" compound such as Continental's Black Chilly - this is a very clever compound that is both very grippy and quite fast/hard wearing. I'm not really sure how it works,
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  • Cheers for the explanations, very helpful.

    The High Rollers come in 60A or 42A which would have too much rolling resistance for my riding i'm thinking so Ignitors or Ardents in 62A for me.

    Thankyou-kindly.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    60A is actually a very nicely rolling compound, making for a good all-rounder. The differences between it and 62A are minimal.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    I currently have an Ignitor exception on the front and a standard one on the back and it works great in dry or damp conditions, was a bit marginal over the weekend in gooey gunk. But so are most.
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    yep, maxxpro is not really any slower than exxception... as I say the main difference is in the carcass.
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  • How can I tell what compound my current Maxxis Ignitors are? I've careful inspected my current tyres and no where does it seem to state the compound. Quite an oversight on Maxxis part no?.. or am I missing something glaringly obvious? Thanks.

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  • morleyman200
    morleyman200 Posts: 513
    main say it in red text on the tyre wall, its quite obvious, but thats high rollers

    And sorry, but can i highjack a little, (still related) whats the difference in beads, and do they offer any advantages?
  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    if they dont say they are probably 70a... maxxpro usually has a big red maxxpro label. And the other compounds have logo's..
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  • Dirtydog11
    Dirtydog11 Posts: 1,621
    How can I tell what compound my current Maxxis Ignitors are? I've careful inspected my current tyres and no where does it seem to state the compound. Quite an oversight on Maxxis part no?.. or am I missing something glaringly obvious? Thanks.

    If there are no markings they will be standard 70a.

    Rubber hardness can be measured with one of these

    http://www.motorsport-tools.com/duromet ... 46536.html
  • wordnumb
    wordnumb Posts: 847
    joshtp wrote:
    Supper Takki is 42a - very grippy, but slow and wears super fast

    No. It's item 42 on the Sushi menu.
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    ...whats the difference in beads, and do they offer any advantages?
    Non-folding tyres have a bead that consists of a wire bundle. In folding tires, the wire is replaced with a hoop of aramid fibers which is lighter.

    If you mean threads, the density of the carcass fabric is expressed in EPI or TPI (Ends Per Inch or Threads Per Inch). In principle, the more close-meshed a carcass is woven, the higher the quality of the tyre. A dense carcass is important for low rolling resistance. At the same time, puncture protection increases because carcasses with a high strand density are difficult to puncture, except in the case of extremely fine 127 EPI carcasses as each strand is sheer and quite vulnerable.

    The best compromise for low weight and resistance is around 50 to 67 EPI/TPI.
  • Useful knowledge that... but you have to reach a special level of extreme if you buy a tyre cos of its TPI rating.

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  • PXR5
    PXR5 Posts: 203
    FWIW...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shore_hardness

    The hardness of many materials can be measured and compared, for rubbers the Shore A scale is very popular along with IRHD (international Rubber Hardness degrees).
    The "A" letter refers to a particular hardness range and is common in everyday articles, for example car tyres are around 50-70 Shore A, the soles of shoes around 70 shore A to be hard wearing, whereas the softer insole may be around 35-40 Shore A to offer more comfort.

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  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    ...you have to reach a special level of geek if you buy a tyre cos of its TPI rating.