cube or bianchi?

mog1404

hi all i have been to look at a few bikes today and have narowed my choice down to 3 bikes, so its the cube agree gtc pro,bianchi c2c via nirone 7 105 or bianchi c2c veloce got to love that paint job on the veloce bianchi, anyone on here got any of these or got any opinions on any of them. i have not had a road bike for the last 20 years so realy could do with a bit of help deciding on what to spend my money on what i think is a lot of cash on a bike.... cheers

Hierotochan

I got a Bianchi just under 2 weeks ago, absolutely loving it. Have just about done my first 100 miles on it now & know I made the right choice for me.

However the Cube is really well laid out and better value for money in the groupset department.

Most people will just tell you to go with whatever fits/feels better, so take both of them out (maybe more than once) on a test ride & experiment!

benno68

Also whether you prefer Shimano or Campag.

Watch the sizing on Cube's which tend to come up on the small side. I'd be a 56 in most brands but got a 58 Cube and still had to fit a longer head stem - I could really have done with a 60 :shock:

I can vouch for the Cube Agree GTC range - I love mine.

StanwaySteve62

Do you have a love for Italy or couldn't give a sh*t ?
Thats the bottom line because you will get more bang for your buck if you buy a GERMAN bike

Ps I ride a wilier

petemadoc

Bianchi

Just because

chiark

My perception from shopping around is that you are definitely paying a premium for the Bianchi name. Whether this is justified or not, I really couldn't say.

Some friends ride Bianchis and love them. A friend in Germany rides a Cube, and loves it.

You pays yer money and takes yer choices

Hierotochan nailed it though: try to get a ride, even if's just on a turbo trainer. You might find Bianchi at evans, but the Cube will be slightly harder to get a decent demo on.

mog1404

cheers for the replys peeps still cant decide tho. my head says cube my heart says bianchi as i have allways had italian motorbikes as for campag v shimano i have never had campag but i love the celeste bike over the black what do you all rate the better group set cheers

StanwaySteve62

Then you have to buy an Italian bike, you will ALWAYS be thinking about the bianchi when you ride the cube

Sammyw23

Head = Cube
Heart = Bianchi

Its as simple as that

riggsy81

Sammyw23 wrote:

Head = Cube
Heart = Bianchi

Its as simple as that

couldnt agree more as I am in the same position... Im going with my heart though

chiark

you can always change/upgrade the bianchi to whatever spec you want. It's not quite so easy to change a cube into a bianchi though

Sounds like you want the Bianchi. That's a perfectly good reason for choosing it!

MichaelW

Forward gears: Cube
Reverse gears: Bianchi

StanwaySteve62

Make sure you go campag as well

MattC59

my brother rides the Bianchi and absolityly loves it, the only thing he's upgraded are the wheels, but he's a big fellow

prb007

a mate of mine got the Cube around 8 weeks back and LOVES it, but if I was
looking for a new bike (I'm NOT, love, honest )
I'd go for a Bianchi, I know there are better bikes with more bang
for your buck, but just for the history, the heritage, the feel of the
whole brand identity, you should go for the Bianchi, IMHO.
Cold German precision engineering is all very well,
but the emotion and the passion of the Italians should
sway you to make the right decision...
Hock or Chianti?
Mercedes or Ferrari?
BMW or Ducati?
Wiener schnitzel or Gnocchi al pomodoro?
Jan Ullrich or Marco Pantani?

My case for the Bianchi, rests, m'lud..

MountainMonster

prb007 wrote:

a mate of mine got the Cube around 8 weeks back and LOVES it, but if I was
looking for a new bike (I'm NOT, love, honest )
I'd go for a Bianchi, I know there are better bikes with more bang
for your buck, but just for the history, the heritage, the feel of the
whole brand identity, you should go for the Bianchi, IMHO.
Cold German precision engineering is all very well,
but the emotion and the passion of the Italians should
sway you to make the right decision...
Hock or Chianti?
Mercedes or Ferrari?
BMW or Ducati?
Wiener schnitzel or Gnocchi al pomodoro?
Jan Ullrich or Marco Pantani?

My case for the Bianchi, rests, m'lud..

Being in effect Austrian, I choose the german engineering. Wiener schnitzls are about 50 times better than any italian dish!

Personally I prefer function over form, and bang for my buck matters, be it 1,000 or 100,000 i'm spending.

prb007

Nice bike, MountainMonster - very 'Cube-like' paintjob, mein freund...

mog1404

thanks for all the replys i am going to go for the bianchi just got to pick one now black with 105 or celeste with campag :?: :roll:

StanwaySteve62

:shock:

The Ors

mog1404 wrote:

thanks for all the replys i am going to go for the bianchi just got to pick one now black with 105 or celeste with campag :?: :roll:

Would you buy a blue diesel Ferrari or a red petrol Ferrari?

If you've chosen the Bianchi for 'heart' reasons then surely it's got to be celeste/Campag!

StanwaySteve62

Don't forget you can't buy shimano pedals either, I had to change to look when I bought my wilier

Hierotochan

I was torn between that choice, but managed to find an obliging LBS to give me a 3rd option:
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12781336

prb007

Campagnolo throughout , even down to the pedals,
been using these for 18 months & they're mint....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Campagnolo-Record-Titanium-Pro-Fit-pedals-/230634684928?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item35b2e60200

if you buy a Bianchi that isn't Celeste, then you'd just as well buy a Chinese copy
and stick Tiagra on it :shock:

blackhands

Lets get a few things straight:

1) Biabchi is not really an Italian company - it part of a Swedish conglomerate which owns other bike brands.

2) Even if the bike says made in Italy, the frame (unless its a very high end one) will have been made in the far east - most likely in the same factory as "chinese copies".

3) Any connection with the Chrome and blue lugged steel frames of the past is limited to the colour of the paint and the badge which the Swedes bought.

4) All the hype about "heritage" is just that - hype. What you are getting is a bike sold at a premium because of its badge - so may not be best value for money.

However, if you want to believe otherwise, then pay for the privilege.

Hierotochan

Just to clarify, any Bianchi frame with the Reparto Corse logo on it is made in Italy.

That includes a bunch (if not all?) of the C2C Via Nirone 7's,
which I wouldn't regard as 'high-end'.
The made in Italy sticker is just above the BB on the seat tube,
and the Reparto Corse logo on the chain stays.

Heritage is about keeping a passion for the sport rather than just reciting pure history.
If I climb my local (tiny) hill riding in the drops & feel like Pantani then who is it harming?

blackhands

Hierotochan wrote:

Just to clarify, any Bianchi frame with the Reparto Corse logo on it is made in Italy.

That includes a bunch (if not all?) of the C2C Via Nirone 7's,
which I wouldn't regard as 'high-end'.
The made in Italy sticker is just above the BB on the seat tube,
and the Reparto Corse logo on the chain stays.

Heritage is about keeping a passion for the sport rather than just reciting pure history.
If I climb my local (tiny) hill riding in the drops & feel like Pantani then who is it harming?

"Made in Italy" is a meaningless statement - in order to confirm to EC law

"Goods the production of which involved more than one country or territory shall be deemed to originate in the country or territory where they underwent their last substantial transformation."

I thought that Bianchi frames are welded in Taiwan and then finsished off and the bike assembled in Italy. Those with carbon stays are welded in Taiwan and then assembled/finished in Italy. It is commonly believed that the Reparto Corse designation is now merely a bit of marketing hype relating to design and production control. Bianchi themselves are very guarded as to the source of their frames.

Of course none of this detracts from the fact that they are a nicley finished and a good looking bike but, sell at a premium because of the name.

saprkzz

Bianchi or Cube??.. out of them two I would go for the Moda

BelgianBeerGeek

Same old arguments...same old stories... :lol
I have a Bianchi bike (and drive an old (classic)VW). I love my Bianchi and find it supremely comfortable over very long rides.
Try 'em out and buy the one you like most and ride them...see you out on the road.

Philby

You are likely to find that the geometries of the Bianchi and the Cube are slightly different and by implication one will feel a slightly better fit than the other - buy that one!

Bloosman

Can't comment on the Cube, but had my Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Alu Xenon Comp 11 for just over a week.....

WELL PLEASED.....

My first venture into road biking since my 1986 Peugeot, and certainly no complaints, with many admiring glances form other bikers...

mog1404

im going for the bianchi in celeste with campag thanks for the words of wisdom to all of you but now the wife has said if i want this i have to sell one of my mtbs so i will be selling my trek remedy 8 its on pink bike i did try to put it on here but cant get a pic on (im crap at this computer lark) so the mod locked my post hope to see some of you on the road or at a sportive next year cheers prb007 im not far from you so if you see a bloke on a new celeste bianchi with a stupid grin on his face it could well be me thanks all