Hollyoaks - stay with me
DonDaddyD
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OK so I stumbled across Hollyoaks last week. Now normally I don't watch it, but this particular story grabbed me... because I just don't understand it.
There is a girl who is a trans gender/sexual (she wants to be a boy). So she goes to school and dresses as a boy as that is how she wants to be identified. Not my coffee but fair beans.
As with all teenagers she/he wants to explore her/his sexuality. Thing is she/he is attracted to men. So in order to find men she goes to a gay dating website. I didn't script this gem.
Now, here's the thing. Her sexual identity aside my understanding is that gay men like men. And without the 'op' she is still functionally a woman and therefore - physically at least - underneath the clothing unappealing to gay men. (This brings back a conversation I had with a gay man and the utter look of disgust on his face when he described having sex with a woman.
Shouldn't she be better served looking for straight men who like butch male dressing women? The internet has told me there are such men.
I've also been left with the lingering question what is the point of all the transsexualness if essentially she is sexually straight... yes I get that her own sexual identity is in question not her sexuality, but still... :shock:
Edit: OK, typing it out it has become clearer in my mind. But still, is this what TV has come to. I miss Wild Life on One and Tomorrow's World:
There is a girl who is a trans gender/sexual (she wants to be a boy). So she goes to school and dresses as a boy as that is how she wants to be identified. Not my coffee but fair beans.
As with all teenagers she/he wants to explore her/his sexuality. Thing is she/he is attracted to men. So in order to find men she goes to a gay dating website. I didn't script this gem.
Now, here's the thing. Her sexual identity aside my understanding is that gay men like men. And without the 'op' she is still functionally a woman and therefore - physically at least - underneath the clothing unappealing to gay men. (This brings back a conversation I had with a gay man and the utter look of disgust on his face when he described having sex with a woman.
Shouldn't she be better served looking for straight men who like butch male dressing women? The internet has told me there are such men.
I've also been left with the lingering question what is the point of all the transsexualness if essentially she is sexually straight... yes I get that her own sexual identity is in question not her sexuality, but still... :shock:
Edit: OK, typing it out it has become clearer in my mind. But still, is this what TV has come to. I miss Wild Life on One and Tomorrow's World:
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I didn't think it was possible for the post to go downhill given the title...Hollyoaks - stay with me0 -
Shouldn't this have been posted on the "OT: What's your favourite serial?" threadNobody told me we had a communication problem0
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It did result in Ms DDD and I having an argument about society, what is entertainment and a "useful use of the TV" if that helps because I was dumbfounded by this.Food Chain number = 4
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DDD this confused me a little too.
incidently the "girl" in question is very much sure of her sexuality in real life i've been out to a comedy club with her and friends, wierd to see her minus any make up and with short hair in hollyoakes0 -
nwmlarge wrote:DDD this confused me a little too.
incidently the "girl" in question is very much sure of her sexuality in real life i've been out to a comedy club with her and friends, wierd to see her minus any make up and with short hair in hollyoakes
"Hey-Zeus" Everyone knows someone today. Eke knows Lewis Hamilton, you know Hollyoaks burdbloke... Is she fit?Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:nwmlarge wrote:DDD this confused me a little too.
incidently the "girl" in question is very much sure of her sexuality in real life i've been out to a comedy club with her and friends, wierd to see her minus any make up and with short hair in hollyoakes
"Hey-Zeus" Everyone knows someone today. Eke knows Lewis Hamilton, you know Hollyoaks burdbloke... Is she fit?
If she isn't she'll not be in Hollyoaks for long. Likewise if she can act she'll probably not be there for long.0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:nwmlarge wrote:DDD this confused me a little too.
incidently the "girl" in question is very much sure of her sexuality in real life i've been out to a comedy club with her and friends, wierd to see her minus any make up and with short hair in hollyoakes
"Hey-Zeus" Everyone knows someone today. EKE knows Lewis Hamilton, you know Hollyoaks burdbloke... Is she fit?
I know someone who knows Lewis. Not quite the same thing.
I have heard of the 'sex change but wanting to fiddle with someone of the sex you've changed to' happening in real life. As I've always said, Hollyoaks is a documentary!
The internet caters for all tastes, so I'm sure the character will be able to find a bloke who lusts after pre-op female to male, jail bait.FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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DonDaddyD wrote:And without the 'op' she is still functionally a woman and therefore - physically at least - underneath the clothing unappealing to gay men.
Seems pretty clear to me. In the key areas, she is 66.66% genetically identical to the male of the species, so strong selling points there. Then there's the option for her to strap up...
However, this does all seem just a little implausible.
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I know someone who knows Lewis. Not quite the same thing.
Nah you're now the cyclist person I know who knows Lewis Hamilton, that's how it works!
You won't have to do anything or meet my friends I'll tell this to. It just adds to the social standing. Hell it might even make me appear faster... it's all about interpretation.
I'm joking
Back when Virgin (how ironic) 1 was one freeview, I saw it on Sexcetera. Buck Angel - don't Google if at work.I have heard of the 'sex change but wanting to fiddle with someone of the sex you've changed to' happening in real life. As I've always said, Hollyoaks is a documentary!
The internet caters for all tastes, so I'm sure the character will be able to find a bloke who lusts after pre-op female to male, jail bait.Seems pretty clear to me. In the key areas, she is 66.66% genetically identical to the male of the species
Ah yes the ever important feet, legs, stomach, shoulders, arms and head. Yeah those bit counts....Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:I know someone who knows Lewis. Not quite the same thing.
Nah you're now the cyclist person I know who knows Lewis Hamilton, that's how it works! You won't have to do anything or meet my friends I'll tell this to. It just adds to the social standing. Hell it might even make me appear faster... it's all about interpretation.
I'm joking
Back when Virgin (how ironic) 1 was one freeview, I saw it on Sexcetera. Buck Angel - don't Google if at work.I have heard of the 'sex change but wanting to fiddle with someone of the sex you've changed to' happening in real life. As I've always said, Hollyoaks is a documentary!
The internet caters for all tastes, so I'm sure the character will be able to find a bloke who lusts after pre-op female to male, jail bait.Seems pretty clear to me. In the key areas, she is 66.66% genetically identical to the male of the species
Ah yes the ever important feet, legs, stomach, shoulders, arms and head. Yeah those bit counts....
Umm, I was thinking more in terms of 66.66% = two out of three...
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Greg66 wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:I know someone who knows Lewis. Not quite the same thing.
Nah you're now the cyclist person I know who knows Lewis Hamilton, that's how it works! You won't have to do anything or meet my friends I'll tell this to. It just adds to the social standing. Hell it might even make me appear faster... it's all about interpretation.
I'm joking
Back when Virgin (how ironic) 1 was one freeview, I saw it on Sexcetera. Buck Angel - don't Google if at work.I have heard of the 'sex change but wanting to fiddle with someone of the sex you've changed to' happening in real life. As I've always said, Hollyoaks is a documentary!
The internet caters for all tastes, so I'm sure the character will be able to find a bloke who lusts after pre-op female to male, jail bait.Seems pretty clear to me. In the key areas, she is 66.66% genetically identical to the male of the species
Ah yes the ever important feet, legs, stomach, shoulders, arms and head. Yeah those bit counts....
Umm, I was thinking more in terms of 66.66% = two out of three...
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When you put it like that. Are you trying to chat me up?0 -
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That sound you all heard was the sound of DDD's penny dropping!Greg66 wrote:tick, tick,tick, tick,....
DDD, at the outside, you are 4 degrees of separation from knowing Lewis. Probably less.
I wonder how you could get from me to Colonel Gadaffi (plucking a well known person out of thin air)?...FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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Sewinman wrote:
Ah. Would that be BooK (K for Keira), a book being an accurate description both of the relief of her decolletage and the dynamism of her acting?
(I'm sure she is lovely, but I've never thought much of her acting skillz. FWIW, I know people who were at college with Rachel Weisz, and she's a lot worse).0 -
EKE_38BPM wrote:
That sound you all heard was the sound of DDD's penny dropping!Greg66 wrote:tick, tick,tick, tick,....
DDD, at the outside, you are 4 degrees of separation from knowing Lewis. Probably less.
I wonder how you could get from me to Colonel Gadaffi (plucking a well known person out of thin air)?...
Yeah my maths is shite. I rounded up to 70% because I was thinking two boobs and a vajaz (also known - in my mind - as the "trinity").
Colonel Gadaffi is too much of a stretch but I know someone who knows Ian Duncan Smith and William Hague (The Greg's just got randy). I really do!Food Chain number = 4
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Greg66 wrote:Sewinman wrote:
Ah. Would that be BooK (K for Keira), a book being an accurate description both of the relief of her decolletage and the dynamism of her acting?
(I'm sure she is lovely, but I've never thought much of her acting skillz. FWIW, I know people who were at college with Rachel Weisz, and she's a lot worse).
Well....I know her as she is the younger sister of my best mate from school. She was a 'lovey' by the time she was about 2 years old. My mate and I did our very best to avoid her in those days.0 -
Dude...Sewinman wrote:Greg66 wrote:Sewinman wrote:
Ah. Would that be BooK (K for Keira), a book being an accurate description both of the relief of her decolletage and the dynamism of her acting?
(I'm sure she is lovely, but I've never thought much of her acting skillz. FWIW, I know people who were at college with Rachel Weisz, and she's a lot worse).
Well....I know her as she is the younger sister of my best mate from school. She was a 'lovey' by the time she was about 2 years old. My mate and I did our very best to avoid her in those days.Food Chain number = 4
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I think he means she was an actress by the age of two and they used to avoid the mate's little sister.FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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Well back to the Tv being crap point of the thread, I managed to upset the missus at the end of emmerdale the other night. there is a storyline about a paralysed lad being bumped off by him boyfriend and mum because he cant stand being paralysed. At the end of the programme the usual "If you were affected by this storyline call yadda, yadda, yadda" When I responded to this by saying "Mo I've not been effected, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REAL!" My missus got quite upset with me! wtf?0
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I meant that she was 'showbiz' before she even started infant school. She had an agent by about 5 or 6 and we all knew she would be a star. My mate (her bro) and I found her quite annoying and we tended to avoid her.0
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EKE_38BPM wrote:
That sound you all heard was the sound of DDD's penny dropping!Greg66 wrote:tick, tick,tick, tick,....
DDD, at the outside, you are 4 degrees of separation from knowing Lewis. Probably less.
I wonder how you could get from me to Colonel Gadaffi (plucking a well known person out of thin air)?...
One of our neighbours is an architect who does (did?) loads of work in Tripoli for the Libyan Govt. Reckon he is no more than three away, possibly two.0 -
Greg66 wrote:EKE_38BPM wrote:
That sound you all heard was the sound of DDD's penny dropping!Greg66 wrote:tick, tick,tick, tick,....
DDD, at the outside, you are 4 degrees of separation from knowing Lewis. Probably less.
I wonder how you could get from me to Colonel Gadaffi (plucking a well known person out of thin air)?...
One of our neighbours is an architect who does (did?) loads of work in Tripoli for the Libyan Govt. Reckon he is no more than three away, possibly two.
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MonkeyMonster wrote:Greg66 wrote:EKE_38BPM wrote:Greg66 wrote:tick, tick,tick, tick,....
I wonder how you could get from me to Colonel Gadaffi (plucking a well known person out of thin air)?...
One of our neighbours is an architect who does (did?) loads of work in Tripoli for the Libyan Govt. Reckon he is no more than three away, possibly two.
I know Tony Hayward (even stayed in his french flat many moons ago) so through him and me, you can likely get most important oil based country leaders...
And that, people, is how the 'six degrees of separation' thing works. Kind of amazing, isn't it?FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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i happen to watch the same said episode and was thinking along the same lines....! If a bloke goes with 'it' is he gay? I just couldn't get my head around it!!!
I know Lewis's little brother, I raced him a few times (Nitro RC racing) does that count???0
