Metal finishing....

gtvlusso

Right - technical question - probably for SimonAH!

I am going to have the fixie re-finished. The enamal finish that was done by Argoscycles has lasted about 2 years, but is showing signs of wear from where I lock the bike up.

What I would like to do is; Strip the finish off the frame and just clear coat the bare metal.

is this possible?
What kind of supplies are required?
Is it better to have the frame electroplated - chrome or something?

Thought and ideas?

I want to go with an industrial look :-)

Me vain, me likey likey....

rjsterry

CHROME.

IT.

I was all of a flutter at the sight of that Paulus Quiros tourer on Saturday; I may be part magpie.

dhope

Vain?
If you want vain then get in touch with the guy that gold plated some toeclips

http://www.lfgss.com/thread66737.html

will3

likethis?

gtvlusso

will3 wrote:

likethis?

Exactly!!!

But a bit less polished!!

I think Nickel plating may be the way forward.

rjsterry

gtvlusso wrote:

will3 wrote:

likethis?

Exactly!!!

But a bit less polished!!

I think Nickel plating may be the way forward.

Yeah, who wants people singing bits of Shirley Bassey at you all the time?

SimonAH

Easy answer is yes, yes you can.

Nitromors and a wire brush to get the existing paint off is the cheapest option (although having the frame media blasted would be a shed load simpler and probably cost you around £25). Next a polishing wheel will get it to as shiny as you like (uses various grades of abrasive entrained wax). Finally a good clean down with thinners and a lot of coats of spray can lacquer. If you have a pillar drill (or a vice and a corded drill) and some space to do the work then I can lend you the kit – failing that you are welcome to use my workshop.

Alternatively how about getting a little creative? I always rather fancied having a steel frame coated in 86/10/4 Tungsten Carbide Cobalt Chrome with the HVOF process. On the one hand it will give you a matt dark grey finish which would look awesome, but on the other it would never rust and best of all totally un-scratchable with anything short of a diamond! Downside is that it would add (guestimate) about 2lb to the frame weight…

Or how about ceramic? Coat it in Chrome Oxide for a cool never rust black finish?

We have the technology! 8)

phy2sll2

SimonAH wrote:

Coat it in Chrome Oxide for a cool never rust black finish?

Wouldn't that make it green?

SimonAH

Actually no (although I can see why you'd think so). Cr2O3 comes out inky black. It's used a lot to coat rollers in the printing industry partly because the dark colour makes it easier to laser etch the surface to produce the little pockets that hold the ink.

Specialist subject doncha know :oops:

mudcow007

the company i work for has (gold and silver) plating machines, ive thought about the idea of gold plated brakes, chain set and cassette

i dont think im cool enough though or my cx purvy enough

phy2sll2

SimonAH wrote:

Actually no (although I can see why you'd think so). Cr2O3 comes out inky black. It's used a lot to coat rollers in the printing industry partly because the dark colour makes it easier to laser etch the surface to produce the little pockets that hold the ink.

Specialist subject doncha know :oops:

Chapeau!

dhope

SimonAH wrote:

Steel frame coated in 86/10/4 Tungsten Carbide Cobalt Chrome with the HVOF process.
matt dark grey finish which would look awesome
never rust
totally un-scratchable

add (guestimate) about 2lb to the frame weight…

Perfect winter trainer...?

gtvlusso

SimonAH wrote:

Easy answer is yes, yes you can.

Nitromors and a wire brush to get the existing paint off is the cheapest option (although having the frame media blasted would be a shed load simpler and probably cost you around £25). Next a polishing wheel will get it to as shiny as you like (uses various grades of abrasive entrained wax). Finally a good clean down with thinners and a lot of coats of spray can lacquer. If you have a pillar drill (or a vice and a corded drill) and some space to do the work then I can lend you the kit – failing that you are welcome to use my workshop.

Alternatively how about getting a little creative? I always rather fancied having a steel frame coated in 86/10/4 Tungsten Carbide Cobalt Chrome with the HVOF process. On the one hand it will give you a matt dark grey finish which would look awesome, but on the other it would never rust and best of all totally un-scratchable with anything short of a diamond! Downside is that it would add (guestimate) about 2lb to the frame weight…

Or how about ceramic? Coat it in Chrome Oxide for a cool never rust black finish?

We have the technology! 8)

I think I love you.

Brilliant stuff! I was thinking about a nickel coating - strip and dip.

I basically want it to look a bit industrial and be rust proofed for a while.

I also want these:



My Nitto RB018's and Zenith Bullhorns will be going on Ebay!

rjsterry

SimonAH wrote:

Easy answer is yes, yes you can.

Nitromors and a wire brush to get the existing paint off is the cheapest option (although having the frame media blasted would be a shed load simpler and probably cost you around £25). Next a polishing wheel will get it to as shiny as you like (uses various grades of abrasive entrained wax). Finally a good clean down with thinners and a lot of coats of spray can lacquer. If you have a pillar drill (or a vice and a corded drill) and some space to do the work then I can lend you the kit – failing that you are welcome to use my workshop.

Alternatively how about getting a little creative? I always rather fancied having a steel frame coated in 86/10/4 Tungsten Carbide Cobalt Chrome with the HVOF process. On the one hand it will give you a matt dark grey finish which would look awesome, but on the other it would never rust and best of all totally un-scratchable with anything short of a diamond! Downside is that it would add (guestimate) about 2lb to the frame weight…

Or how about ceramic? Coat it in Chrome Oxide for a cool never rust black finish?

We have the technology! 8)

Someone like this might be of use. Obvious;y a bit far from Brizzle, but I'm sure there's someone similar and more local.

dhope

gtvlusso wrote:

My Nitto RB018's and Zenith Bullhorns will be going on Ebay!

Let me know if they do, might be interested in the Nittos.

snailracer

gtvlusso wrote:

... I was thinking about a nickel coating - strip and dip.

I basically want it to look a bit industrial and be rust proofed for a while.
...

What if...you become allergic to nickel?

gtvlusso

@SimonAh - know any good clear lacquers suitable for said task? Waterproof, will halt rust and generally hard wearing?

I can get the frame media blasted at a small place in Brizzle!