Rockshox 2012

supersonic
supersonic Posts: 82,708
edited June 2011 in MTB general
For those who have not seen it:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/r ... nge-30429/

No more Tora with the look of it, at leas in name: Recon Silver and XC32 are the budget forks. Dart is the XC28.

With even more forks and damper options, and a confusing naming system, I am not looking forward having to learn all this!
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    You've got to learn it all, mate, otherwise who will we ask? :wink:

    I've got Pikes on the Mongoose, which I think are pretty good - did the Revelation replace the Pike fork?
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Pike and Reba were released for 2005, with the Revelation being intoduced in 2006 which is a less burly, lighter long travel fork.

    Closest thing to the Pike today is the Argyle RCT.
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  • Phillw454
    Phillw454 Posts: 101
    Ooo that white Monarch shock looks great!
  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Closest thing to the Pike today is the Argyle RCT.


    Bloody hell, at that price I'd better make the Pikes last!
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I'm waiting for the Totem with Compression, Lockout, Internal Threshold, Openbath Rebound and Integrated Shimstack.
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    I understood 'with' and 'and'. :oops:
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Look at the initials of the spec hehe
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Ha!

    I'd have never bloody noticed that.
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  • toastedone
    toastedone Posts: 838
    Im looking at buying some Rebas, do you think this years models will drop in price when the 2012's come out, is it worth waiting?
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    They usually drop a little, but are so good value at the minute anyway is hard to be sure.

    Next years are lighter. This is what I thought RS should have done a couple of years back.
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  • toastedone
    toastedone Posts: 838
    Thanks for the answer. maybe i should hold out for a nice pair of 2012's? will they still be rebas or something else :/
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Still Reba! But limited to 100mm max.
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Do you have a particular fave brand of fork, SS?

    I have to admit that when I first got the Fox Vanillas on the Marin, I was amazed by the plushness etc. That said, I had only previously ridden Judys and Toras.

    Since acquiring the Rebas and Pikes over the last couple of years, I think that the RS forks are pretty impressive. I have yet to experience other brands, but I do know a few riders who have reservations about RS, and seem to steer clear of them.
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Rockshox are my preferred, but it does come down to the models. The range is confusing, but there is a fork for just about everyone if you look hard enough, and are better value than Fox with generally more adjustability.
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Fox do seem to need a lot of attention.

    I've had nothing but good experiences with RS, and I'd buy again, but preferably when there are deals flying around...as with any fork.

    I think that nowadays if you have wear on the stanchions etc. it can sometimes be more cost effective to buy new forks rather than have them replaced...especially when the decent deals are around.

    My Vanilla forks were showing slight stanchion wear on their last service, and to have them serviced and the uppers replaced it was almost £200.00, which compared with some of the sale deals on forks becomes quite expensive. That said, I wouldn't be able to get the same fork. I understand that TF and Mojo etc. have to make money though, so it's understandable that it's not going to be cheap to have such replacements done.
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  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    edited June 2011
    Johnny Napalm wrote:
    I've got Pikes on the Mongoose, which I think are pretty good - did the Revelation replace the Pike fork?

    Sorta kinda. Basically, the Pike is a stiffer, stronger fork than the Rev. But, Rockshox noticed that practically everyone that was using a Pike would be fine with the less hardcore Rev and saving half a kilo or so, and that if you want a monster fork an air lyrik is lighter than many of the Pike models. Also that hardcore bikes were leaning towards bigger forks anyway- 160mm travel's more acceptable/desirable than it used to be.

    But most likely if you have Pikes now, what you'd replace them with is Revs or Sektors. Or old stock Pikes!
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  • Andy B
    Andy B Posts: 8,115
    supersonic wrote:
    I'm waiting for the Totem with Compression, Lockout, Internal Threshold, Openbath Rebound and Integrated Shimstack.
    Dunno which is harder, finding one of those or understanding the new range.

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  • toastedone
    toastedone Posts: 838
    SS, I have found these that are a 2011 model @ £250, would you say they were worth it and would suit my bike, i ride XC and currently have suntour SF11-XCR-DS-26-LO-SP 80mm, would these RS be a good upgrade with noticeable difference or would something else suit better.

    http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FORSRERL/ro ... k--26-inch
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    They'd be an epic upgrade. Pretty much the only fork you'll ever need for that frame.
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  • leaflite
    leaflite Posts: 1,651
    toastedone wrote:
    SS, I have found these that are a 2011 model @ £250, would you say they were worth it and would suit my bike, i ride XC and currently have suntour SF11-XCR-DS-26-LO-SP 80mm, would these RS be a good upgrade with noticeable difference or would something else suit better.

    http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FORSRERL/ro ... k--26-inch


    Id say they would be an excellent upgrade. I havent seen a better price on those anywhere.
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  • NatoED
    NatoED Posts: 480
    I designed a suspension system that allowed the "complete use of natural terrain" . the cardboard prototype i made was awesome. Then Giant brought out the NRS before i could make a full size mock up and paten the design . I was gutted . Then I came up with a duel shock VPP which I called "full use of current knowledge" but it was to hard finding a pull shock .

    that to was scrapped . It was a shame as the designs had real potential too .
  • Torres
    Torres Posts: 1,266
    I like the sound of the two-step coil forks. Time will tell if they're any good (read work), but i'd hope they'd be a touch more reliabile than their air counterparts.
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  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    The 2-step (dual position) air Revelations seem to be reliable, it's the Lyriks that were awful.
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  • leaflite
    leaflite Posts: 1,651
    Northwind wrote:
    The 2-step (dual position) air Revelations seem to be reliable, it's the Lyriks that were awful.

    Some people have had issues with the dual position air revs on mtbr apparently. However, mine(which havent been ridden yet, just taken out of the box) seem to work fine.
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Is 2-step similar to u-turn...but for air?
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  • joshtp
    joshtp Posts: 3,966
    nope... u-turn for air is called... "air u-turn"! :lol:

    2 step is a system that shortens the fork by 40mm (?) instantly with the push of a fork top button. I personally think it's a great idea... but up until now it's had varying reliability...

    the coil version they are bringing out will be more reliable hopefully!
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  • Johnny Napalm
    Johnny Napalm Posts: 1,458
    Oops! :oops:

    Ah, so it's an instant travel adjustment...sounds a good idea.
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  • fat_homer
    fat_homer Posts: 470
    toastedone wrote:
    SS, I have found these that are a 2011 model @ £250, would you say they were worth it and would suit my bike, i ride XC and currently have suntour SF11-XCR-DS-26-LO-SP 80mm, would these RS be a good upgrade with noticeable difference or would something else suit better.

    http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FORSRERL/ro ... k--26-inch
    Out of curiosity would these be a good upgrade from a set of Tora 302 coil forks with 80mm travel.
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  • Deputy Dawg
    Deputy Dawg Posts: 428
    Johnny Napalm wrote:
    Oops! :oops:

    Ah, so it's an instant travel adjustment...sounds a good idea.
    It's a geometry adjustment too which'll aid climbing. ;)
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  • cat_with_no_tail
    cat_with_no_tail Posts: 12,981
    Some of them look quite nice. Others look completely pointless. RS do seem to like making up segments of market to fill.

    They're still light-years behind Bionicon anyway :lol::wink:
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