Giro Stage 17 **Spoiler**
Today's stage is classified as a mountains stage, although there are just two climbs - the Cat.2 Passo del Tonale and the Cat.3 Aprica. The finish in the medieval town of Tirano comes after a long descent, which will interest a rider such as Vincenzo Nibali, second in yesterday's mountain ITT and third overall in the GC. Of course, with the main contenders having played out for the past four stages, it may be that today's stage is one for a breakaway.
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Surely this is made for Nibali.. A descending master class awaits.0
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Made for a breakaway I reckon, but also potential for some attacks on the final descent from the GC guys. If 2nd is really 1st*, its building up to an exciting finish - Nibali looks favourite now.
* who knows what will happen with Contador, but there's a risk he'll be stripped of the win surely?0 -
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JonGinge wrote:I reckon Nibali will attack on the final descent and AC will let Scarponi do the chase work. Before that Liquigas will have set a fierce pace up the Aprica to eliminate the Lampre domestiques. That pace may damn a breakaway but I hope not
yes i agree, Its going to be good to watch thats for sure0 -
Contador saying he is not worried if attacks come on the descent.
He isn't Nibs on the descent but he is no slow coach at all.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Climb up to Aprica ???JonGinge wrote:I reckon Nibali will attack on the final descent and AC will let Scarponi do the chase work. Before that Liquigas will have set a fierce pace up the Aprica to eliminate the Lampre domestiques. That pace may damn a breakaway but I hope not
It's a wide main road and maybe a big ring gradient.
Basso won a stage there and celebrated his first child being born.
I think what you say about Nibali is OK for an Italian downhill scrap for GC second place as they hope Contador's appeal is lost.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Is it nailed on that if Contador is banned all his results since the Tour will be wiped ?
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
Check another thread, pleaseTom Butcher wrote:Is it nailed on that if Contador is banned all his results since the Tour will be wiped ?Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
if found guilty it will likely be a 2 year ban (may get a reduction of some sort) and include stripping all results including last years tour. Didnt he say he'd quit riding if found guilty?Burning Fat Not Rubber
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deejay wrote:
Check another thread, pleaseTom Butcher wrote:Is it nailed on that if Contador is banned all his results since the Tour will be wiped ?
A simple yes or no would have been quicker.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
deejay wrote:
Climb up to Aprica ???JonGinge wrote:I reckon Nibali will attack on the final descent and AC will let Scarponi do the chase work. Before that Liquigas will have set a fierce pace up the Aprica to eliminate the Lampre domestiques. That pace may damn a breakaway but I hope not
It's a wide main road and maybe a big ring gradient.
Basso won a stage there and celebrated his first child being born.
I think what you say about Nibali is OK for an Italian downhill scrap for GC second place as they hope Contador's appeal is lost.
Wasn't that the stage where everybody suddenly got wise to Basso? When he just rode away in the big ring from Simoni who weighed about 10 kilos less than him?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Sprinter Murilo Fischer from Garmin has abandoned..0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:deejay wrote:
Climb up to Aprica ???JonGinge wrote:I reckon Nibali will attack on the final descent and AC will let Scarponi do the chase work. Before that Liquigas will have set a fierce pace up the Aprica to eliminate the Lampre domestiques. That pace may damn a breakaway but I hope not
It's a wide main road and maybe a big ring gradient.
Basso won a stage there and celebrated his first child being born.
I think what you say about Nibali is OK for an Italian downhill scrap for GC second place as they hope Contador's appeal is lost.
Wasn't that the stage where everybody suddenly got wise to Basso? When he just rode away in the big ring from Simoni who weighed about 10 kilos less than him?
It was when basso asked for cash from gilberto to let him win the stage.....so keep your eyes open for brown envelopes a fluttering in the breezeThe dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
On current form: Contador to launch an attack on the Tonale and TT home 15 mins ahead of the field.0
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I think the mountains jersey will play a role today, so Garzelli will try to grab the points. I'll be interested to see if Contador will try to prevent him. I suspect he won't, but wish he would.0
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So, Nabali is a better descender than AC, but what are the chances of Nabali keeping up with Contador on the climbs? If Contador puts enough distance between himself and everyone else (which he seems capable of doing at the moment) then he won't have to worry too much about the descent. Right?0
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jame58rown wrote:So, Nabali is a better descender than AC, but what are the chances of Nabali keeping up with Contador on the climbs? If Contador puts enough distance between himself and everyone else (which he seems capable of doing at the moment) then he won't have to worry too much about the descent. Right?
After the last few stages, I can't see any of the GC contenders really going for it.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:jame58rown wrote:So, Nabali is a better descender than AC, but what are the chances of Nabali keeping up with Contador on the climbs? If Contador puts enough distance between himself and everyone else (which he seems capable of doing at the moment) then he won't have to worry too much about the descent. Right?
After the last few stages, I can't see any of the GC contenders really going for it.
Which is why Menchov will materialise, StarTrek-like, 150m from the finish line with a 10 minute lead.
(And fall off.)'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:deejay wrote:
Climb up to Aprica ???JonGinge wrote:I reckon Nibali will attack on the final descent and AC will let Scarponi do the chase work. Before that Liquigas will have set a fierce pace up the Aprica to eliminate the Lampre domestiques. That pace may damn a breakaway but I hope not
It's a wide main road and maybe a big ring gradient.
Basso won a stage there and celebrated his first child being born.
I think what you say about Nibali is OK for an Italian downhill scrap for GC second place as they hope Contador's appeal is lost.
Wasn't that the stage where everybody suddenly got wise to Basso? When he just rode away in the big ring from Simoni who weighed about 10 kilos less than him?
It was a bit obvious that one. Even the missus said it out right, i actually felt sorry for Simoni then and wondered why he just didnt have a cough sweet to take his mind off it0 -
Christian Le Mevel (Garmin-Cervelo), Giovanni Visconti (Farnese Vini), Leonardo Giordani (Farnese Vini), Jan Bakelants (Omega Pharma-Lotto), Robert Kiserlovski (Astana), Kanstanstin Svitsov (HTC), Jesus Hernandez (Saxo Bank), Pablo Lastras (Movistar), Diego Ulissi (Lampre-ISD), Eduard Vorganov (Katusha), Alberto Losada (Katusha), Mathias Frank (BMC), Fabio Taborre (Acqua & Sapone), Addy Engels (Quick Step), Herve Dupont (Ag2r-La Mondiale) and Ben Gastauer (Ag2r-La Mondiale).
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(Milan TT reduced to 26km due to preventing disruption to voters).Contador is the Greatest0 -
112km to go and 7.30 is the gapContador is the Greatest0
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if i was contador id be conserving as much energy as possible and wouldnt be worried about a few seconds
Unless i wanted to win all the jerseys that is.
This is largely in the bag with lots of time to spare and the tour still to do
But then Im not contador Im me and i would rather see him savaging all his rivals
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Surprised Garzelli isn't in the break.
Are Sky still in this race? Clearly Lofkvist is out of the GC battle...surely they could at least try and get someone like Cioni into the break to at least show they tried and get the sponsors name on TV?"I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0 -
inkyfingers wrote:Surprised Garzelli isn't in the break.
Are Sky still in this race? Clearly Lofkvist is out of the GC battle...surely they could at least try and get someone like Cioni into the break to at least show they tried and get the sponsors name on TV?
I think this is my biggest disappointment with Sky. Brailsford seems intent on doing everything by the numbers. If by mid-point through the race the numbers don't stack up then the team just shut down.
There is no passion or fire in the belly of Sky. Riders should be out there taking racing chances for stages if there is no GC or jersey prospects. Perhaps we'll see something as the stage progresses but I fear they'll just sign off anonymously at the end of the race.0 -
Have to say Sky have been pretty lame in the Giro. I wasn't expecting stage wins or much GC wise from Lofkvist but surely they could have been a little more agressive. Apolloni aside they have been pretty invisible. Has Downing even managed/been allowed to get into a break?0
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Liquigas brought it down to 5.5mins
Sivtsov is in there...Contador is the Greatest0 -
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