Rapha fans - how does this make you feel?

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  • benjboy
    benjboy Posts: 258
    benjboy wrote:
    Over priced really over priced it's cycling clothes over priced simple..

    It is expensive, no doubt about that.Over. Shite it is not. Over. If you cannot afford it or would never spend that kind of money on cycling clothes, well that's one thing, but to call it shite is.....well shite. Roger Over and Out.
    Ok got that wrong Sorry :oops: :oops: . But it is well over expensive but then to say join our club well !!!!!!!!!..
    Keep the chain tight all the way.
  • benjboy
    benjboy Posts: 258
    benjboy wrote:
    No because some one /people will find it nice and will pay what they are are asking.(ie i like it i want it i will buy it).I think it is not worth it ..

    So which item are you most dissapointed with? The items I have bought made me think that I was mad to pay that price initially, but the quality of the thing has made me realise it will last for years and so is money well spent. So come on, which item has made you decide that "I think it is not worth it" . Really curious.
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    Keep the chain tight all the way.
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    <pedantry>
    Over and Out.

    "Over" = I'm waiting for your reply.

    "Out" = I've finished speaking altogether and I'm off.

    You can't do both. :wink:

    </pedantry>

    Roger. :)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Yeah, it takes the mickey when a clothing company releases fragrances and things. You wouldn't find Armani or Lacoste doing anything like that.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    <pedantry>
    Over and Out.

    "Over" = I'm waiting for your reply.

    "Out" = I've finished speaking altogether and I'm off.

    You can't do both. :wink:

    </pedantry>

    Roger. :)

    I thought 'over' meant that your message was over. So you could say over and out. We did when I was 7 anyway.
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    benjboy wrote:
    benjboy wrote:
    No because some one /people will find it nice and will pay what they are are asking.(ie i like it i want it i will buy it).I think it is not worth it ..

    So which item are you most dissapointed with? The items I have bought made me think that I was mad to pay that price initially, but the quality of the thing has made me realise it will last for years and so is money well spent. So come on, which item has made you decide that "I think it is not worth it" . Really curious.
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    Soap? So you bought some soap and what? It made you dirtier, covered you in shite? You don't like Rapha clothes because you were dissapointed in the soap! :shock:
  • benjboy
    benjboy Posts: 258
    No it did'nt last years like i thought the clothes would :lol: ..
    Keep the chain tight all the way.
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    benjboy wrote:
    No it did'nt last years like i thought the clothes would :lol: ..

    Nothing is for Lifebuoy! :oops:
  • Pseudonym
    Pseudonym Posts: 1,032
    NapoleonD wrote:
    You wouldn't find Armani or Lacoste doing anything like that.

    but they are fashion houses, selling stuff to a bunch of posing ponces - oh hang on.....
  • BOOSTER
    BOOSTER Posts: 38
    I love this thread

    For xmas I was given some chamois cream and soap. I am afraid to use them as they were so expensive and am saving them for a trip to the pyrenees! The arm warmers I bought are very good and they have had loads of use.

    I think its interesting the prices for the second hand stuff on Ebay. I did see a beanie hat actually go for more money than it was available from Rapha!!!!!

    Total Marketing!
    :shock:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Pseudonym wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    You wouldn't find Armani or Lacoste doing anything like that.

    but they are fashion houses, selling stuff to a bunch of posing ponces - oh hang on.....

    Indeed. But they make good stuff. As do Rapha.
  • themightyw
    themightyw Posts: 409
    I'm sure Rapha is great stuff - I'll probably buy some at some point. But one thing I have learnt is that Rapha fans don't have much of a sense of humour when people take the mickey out of them :)
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    themightyw wrote:
    I'm sure Rapha is great stuff - I'll probably buy some at some point. But one thing I have learnt is that Rapha fans don't have much of a sense of humour when people take the mickey out of them :)

    Word. Especially as Rapha isn't NEARLY as good as Assos.
  • dg74
    dg74 Posts: 656
    I'd like some Rapha kit for cycling - won't make me cycle any better but I'd like to be able to spend a few hundred on a couple of tops and some nice bibs (though my DHB stuff is canny). Is it worth the money? No, certainly not.

    Closest I've gotten is a Condor t-shirt from a nice shop in that there small london town place. Nice.
  • warrior4life
    warrior4life Posts: 925
    I've just had a good look on the Rapha website and i really dont think any of it looks that good.
    It has that H&M primark look, Very plain and dull.

    Example http://www.rapha.cc/short-sleeve-shirt

    you could get something similar from asda for £7, I know people bang on about quality but I have some super cheap clothes that look good, have been worn lots and last for years.

    People pay for the brand and i'm sure the stuff is well made but even if the jerseys where £15 I wouldn't get them.



    Very hipster...
  • morrisje
    morrisje Posts: 507
    There are Rapha alternatives

    www.torm.cc

    Even people I know, that own the Rapha stuff, have to admit there really is no difference and its less than half the price.
  • tremayne
    tremayne Posts: 378
    Love that video. Genuinely inspiring stuff. Good for Rapha to be bothered to make such a piece of (apologies here - but it's true) art.

    I own no Rapha gear. Find it hard to justify the price , but know that I would dearly love to own some of their nice jerseys.

    Rapha didn't make some of their customers elitist tossers - though you could easily argue they haven't exactly helped the situation!

    Paul Smith absolutely loves all things cycle. Rapha is the expression/embodiment of this. We have to respect him for this. Seriously!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    themightyw wrote:
    I'm sure Rapha is great stuff - I'll probably buy some at some point. But one thing I have learnt is that Rapha fans don't have much of a sense of humour when people take the mickey out of them :)

    I'm very much a Rapha fan, my fave jersey is Rapha and my stowaway rain jacket is brill. I have a few other bits that are great too.

    However, as you have probably seen, I am also more than happy to take the mick out of the branding and marketing.

    I buy the stuff because I really like the fit and function.
  • huwbach
    huwbach Posts: 2
    terrible just terrible
  • huwbach
    huwbach Posts: 2
    terrible just terrible
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Insightful first post!
  • APIII
    APIII Posts: 2,010
    The Continental vid was great I thought. I wouldn't describe cycling as ethereal though :D
    Makes a change from eurosport anyway
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    They're savvy, very savvy. An excellent example of how to market your product well (in the context of a premium product).

    I can't comment on the products 'cos i've never owned any (stinky student from normal background, maybe one day... (<<<is that aspiration i see? :shock:))

    What i don't like is the self righteousness of some people who believe that Rapha is better than other cycling related companies because it "re-invests it's profits back into the sport". Sorry, it's not some sort of altruistic re-investment, it's sponsorship and sponsorship = ££££. If they weren't seeing return on that sponsorship i can guarantee it would stop in a heartbeat. That's my only gripe though.

    Oh and the vid is the best i've seen yet from them. Nicely shot and nice soundtrack. Some of the interviews add some cringing comedy value... :lol:
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I've got a couple of Rapha items, bought before they disappeared up their own bottom. Time has told on both and they haven't lasted any longer than other stuff. Worst is the Epic cap, 4x the price of other caps, the peak broke and has started fraying. The problem with Rapha is that many of the people wearing it are a parody of the "all the gear, no idea"
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • Pseudonym
    Pseudonym Posts: 1,032
    EKIMIKE wrote:
    They're savvy, very savvy. An excellent example of how to market your product well (in the context of a premium product).

    if they were that 'savvy' they wouldn't have developed a brand which creates such extremes of polarised opinions...

    "I know - let's create a brand which alienates half our potential audience.."
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    ... whilst the other half are loaded and will love over-priced exclusivity of it all.

    Works both ways.

    I'm personally not a big fan of them or that approach to business or in fact life but from a purely observational point of view, they're doing it very well and they're doing very well out of it.

    In a way they're be more stupid to say ' i know, let's create a product that potentially appeals to 100% of the market'. There are very few products that successfully appeal to 100% of a market. Even fewer brands. On the other hand there are alot of successful products and brands which appeal to smaller, specific segments of the market they're in.
  • Pseudonym
    Pseudonym Posts: 1,032
    edited May 2011
    EKIMIKE wrote:

    In a way they're be more stupid to say ' i know, let's create a product that potentially appeals to 100% of the market'. There are very few products that successfully appeal to 100% of a market. Even fewer brands. On the other hand there are alot of successful products and brands which appeal to smaller, specific segments of the market they're in.

    agreed, nobody can appeal to 100% - but that's not the same as effectively excluding around 50% - probably more...

    Rolls Royce is a luxury brand which trades on it's quality and heritage - and is obviously not targeting the mass market. Rapha is also trading on quality and heritage - but the 'heritage' is not theirs (it belongs to other people) and the quality is questionable, according to some of the replies here.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Pseudonym wrote:
    EKIMIKE wrote:
    They're savvy, very savvy. An excellent example of how to market your product well (in the context of a premium product).

    if they were that 'savvy' they wouldn't have developed a brand which creates such extremes of polarised opinions...

    "I know - let's create a brand which alienates half our potential audience.."

    Yet seeing as there's a recession they are doing remarkably well...
  • Pseudonym
    Pseudonym Posts: 1,032
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Yet seeing as there's a recession they are doing remarkably well...

    you've seen their financial accounts then..?
  • MattJPaul
    MattJPaul Posts: 95
    To have animosity towards a brand because it caters to those with more disposable income is the reverse of those who purchase the more expensive products looking down on cyclists wearing DHB or Altura, which everyone can agree is ridiculous.

    If I could afford to, I'd try Rapha products. If I liked them, I'd buy more. I bet some of you have a 'Superdry' jacket, for example, because it's 'better quality' than the Primark version.

    I'll take a look at the Aldi/Lidl products. If I like them, I'll buy more. You wouldn't spend an extra £20 on a pair of socks just because said 'CK' in tiny writing on the underside of the sole.

    This is really a veiled heated discussion about class, which, like cycling in tar, is pointless.