Hincapie too

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,653
    squired wrote:
    OK, so there are potential implications for Lance here. However, forget that for a moment.

    If Hincapie has admitted under oath to taking drugs, why hasn't he been immediately served with a two year ban? Surely he should be sanctioned? The guy is racing in California at the moment. He may be clean right now, but whether he is or isn't is irrelevant. If he has admitted to doping (obviously yet to be 100% confirmed) when does his ban start?

    I imagine because the UCI have no information on what's going on inside the grand jury courtroom.

    I'm not even sure what machinery the UCI have to deal with a confession from a rider they have no positive results from.
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  • ms_tree
    ms_tree Posts: 1,405
    Reckon George is off the Christmas card list now!!

    Seriously, I loath Armstrong, always have. He's a control freak and a bully. However, I have always felt that someone who stared death in the face and had to take loads of dreadful drugs just to survive would then turn round and take drugs to win a race or two. That is what is disappointing if this all proves to be true.
    Also where is slimy Bruyneel in all this?
    'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
    Neil Gaiman
  • babyjebus
    babyjebus Posts: 93
    When the Giro reached Austria yesterday the Sound of Music scenery set a little song going in my head. Clean mountain air, healthful living and all that. I think you all know the tune...


    PO!- EPO, a blood boosting drug
    PED!- a drop makes climbing fun
    ME!- ex-boss of the peleton
    FAR!- This story will run and run
    SO!- I've never failed a test!
    LANCE!- A name to follow So!
    GEORGE!- A man to follow Lance!
    That will bring us back to...
    PO!
    etc.

    (Apologies to Julie Andrews lovers everywhere)
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    In the words of kenneth Williams .... Infamy Infamy they`ve all got it in for me :D
  • brookter
    brookter Posts: 51
    babyjebus wrote:
    When the Giro reached Austria yesterday the Sound of Music scenery set a little song going in my head. Clean mountain air, healthful living and all that. I think you all know the tune...


    PO!- EPO, a blood boosting drug
    PED!- a drop makes climbing fun
    ME!- ex-boss of the peloton
    FAR!- This story will run and run
    SO!- I've never failed a test!
    LANCE!- A name to follow So!
    GEORGE!- A man to follow Lance!
    That will bring us back to...
    PO!
    etc.

    (Apologies to Julie Andrews lovers everywhere)

    I've got that album and it's very good. But my favourite is from Mary EPOppins.


    In every race that must be won
    There is a chemical that's fun
    You find the fun and snap
    The race is done!

    And ev'ry sprint and ev'ry climb
    Becomes so easy and sublime
    A lark! A spree! And yellow comes to me….

    For

    A spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    Yes a spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    In a quite suspicious way…

    The rider in the peloton
    Is forced to keep in echelon
    Or soon he'll flag and fall behind the bunch
    But not if he first prepares
    With Ferrari's patent wares
    He knows that juice, will give his legs a boost,

    For

    A spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    Yes a spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    In a quite suspicious way…

    The domestiques who fetch the bidons
    From the team cars to the team
    Never tire of ever buzzing to and fro
    Because they took a little nip
    From that ampoule (just a sip)
    And hence (And hence)
    They find (They find)
    They're never left behind…

    Ah-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h ah!

    A spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    The peloton go round
    Yes a spoonful of epo makes the peloton go round
    In a quite suspicious way…
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,653
    Supercalifragilisticerythropoietin,
    Even though its side effects,
    Are really rather frightenin',
    If you take it long enough,
    Your heart might stop at night-time,
    Supercalifragilisticerythropoietin.


    Clen-but-er-ol,
    Clen-but-er-ol,
    Clen-buuuuut-er-ol,
    It'll burn off the fat so
    You'll fly up the col.

    Clen-but-er-ol,
    Clen-but-er-ol,
    Clen-buuuuut-er-eeee,
    You can get it in tablets,
    You can get it in beef.
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  • Scrumple
    Scrumple Posts: 2,665
    help me
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    this surely is the end of the world!!!!
    The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
    momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,653
    Scrumple wrote:
    help me

    I apologise unreservedly for my part in the shameful songsmithing above.
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  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    High On a Hill
    The Bus Pulled over
    EPO EPO EPO oh oh

    The Bus driver said
    draw all the curtains
    EPO EPO EPO oh oh

    Down on the floor
    Right lets open the fridge door
    EPO EPO EPO oh oh

    Chorus ??? :D
  • rdt
    rdt Posts: 869
    carbonfiend wrote:
    And come on regardless of LA being innocent or guilty surely nobody is stupid enough to believe that Landis & Hamilton statements are worth the paper they are written on.

    To clarify then: presumably, you think that when Tyler H got subpoenaed to testify in front of the Fed's grand jury, he decided it'd be a good wheeze:-

    (1) to make up a load of lies in a false confession to the grand jury stating he'd seen Armstrong using EPO etc, perjuring himself in the process, risking serious jail time if his lies were exposed;
    (2) decided to cement this "confession" about Armstrong by making up a false confession to his family, friends and world at large about his own use of PEDs;
    (3) decided to cement this "confession" by returning his Olympic gold medal.

    :roll:
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    The cycling news article saying Big G saw Pharmstrong take peds has mysteriously disappeared...................
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    itisaboutthebike wrote:
    The cycling news article saying Big G saw Pharmstrong take peds has mysteriously disappeared...................

    This one?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    Couldn't see it on the main page........................buied on the news page now - well found !
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    squired wrote:
    OK, so there are potential implications for Lance here. However, forget that for a moment.

    If Hincapie has admitted under oath to taking drugs, why hasn't he been immediately served with a two year ban? Surely he should be sanctioned? The guy is racing in California at the moment. He may be clean right now, but whether he is or isn't is irrelevant. If he has admitted to doping (obviously yet to be 100% confirmed) when does his ban start?

    What about the statute of limitations? 8 years?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited May 2011
    If Hincapie has a good PR advisor, he can get away with this fairly scott free. He may cop a ban, but he's been on the verge of retirement for a while now. Even I could write a career narrative which wouldn't do him much harm.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rdt
    rdt Posts: 869
    Lionel Birnie:-

    Lance Armstrong: the endgame begins

    http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-c ... me-begins/
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    So George tweets that he never spoke to 60 Minutes and doesn't know where they got their info - but doesn't deny that he actually said those things to the Grand Jury.

    Then he tweets "As for the substance of anything in the "60 Minutes" story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation."

    And today he tweets "Seriously moved by all the encouragement and support along the road. You really motivated me today. Thank you."


    Doesn't take a genius to figure out that the stories are true. He just didn't tell 60 Minutes.
  • pollys_bott
    pollys_bott Posts: 1,012
    Freshly filled blood bags and bright shiny needles
    Millions of acolytes boosting my ego
    EPO-shielding Ac-to-ve-gin
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    Preaching my gospel to all those who’d listen
    ‘Oi Simeoni - the soup’s not for spittin’ in!’
    When I’m in trouble McQuaid’s phone I’ll ring
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    Post-dated TUEs, boxes of steroids
    Spinning up Alpe d’Huez, that’s what I en-joy
    Whupping Jan’s arse as he ground his big ring
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    When the Feds call
    When my curtain falls
    When I’m feeling sad
    I’ll simply remember my favourite things
    And then I won’t feeeeeeelllll – so bad.......
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    rdt wrote:
    Lionel Birnie:-

    Lance Armstrong: the endgame begins

    http://www.cyclesportmag.com/news-and-c ... me-begins/
    Hamilton, who cheated and then lied about it for years, did have something to lose. His Olympic gold medal, won at Athens in 2004, shortly before he tested positive for a banned blood transfusion. Hamilton fought tooth and nail to keep that medal and he did so on a technicality. He had to reach next summer to pass the IOC’s eight-year statute of limitations and keep it for good. Now he will hand it back.

    Armstrong Tweeted: “Congratulations to @eki_ekimov on his 3rd Olympic Gold Medal!!” That was a reference to his former US Postal Service team-mate, Vjatcheslav Ekimov, who was second to Hamilton in that Athens time trial. It appears Armstrong has no problem with titles being retrospectively stripped in such circumstances. Good to know.

    Titter.

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • brookter
    brookter Posts: 51
    Pollys Bott wrote:
    Freshly filled blood bags and bright shiny needles...

    Bravo!
  • rdt
    rdt Posts: 869
    Pollys Bott wrote:
    Freshly filled blood bags and bright shiny needles
    Millions of acolytes boosting my ego
    EPO-shielding Ac-to-ve-gin
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    Preaching my gospel to all those who’d listen
    ‘Oi Simeoni - the soup’s not for spittin’ in!’
    When I’m in trouble McQuaid’s phone I’ll ring
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    Post-dated TUEs, boxes of steroids
    Spinning up Alpe d’Huez, that’s what I en-joy
    Whupping Jan’s ars* as he ground his big ring
    These are a few of my favourite things...

    When the Feds call
    When my curtain falls
    When I’m feeling sad
    I’ll simply remember my favourite things
    And then I won’t feeeeeeelllll – so bad.......

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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Poetic justice, eh?

    I suspect Hincapie's close to retirement and might have cut a deal. Certainly Armstrong's going to find this hard to deal with, he can't try the smear / mud chuck manoeuvre he's done on Landis and Hamilton.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Kléber wrote:
    Poetic justice, eh?

    I suspect Hincapie's close to retirement and might have cut a deal. Certainly Armstrong's going to find this hard to deal with, he can't try the smear / mud chuck manoeuvre he's done on Landis and Hamilton.

    what a weird place they must be in now.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I want a "Greg was right.." tee-shirt - preferably in yellow to demonstrate than pillaging the public via a charity for personal gain doesn't give you a monopoly on a certain colour.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    I want a Paul Kimmage T-shirt with "I want McQuaid's job on it :D
  • donkykong
    donkykong Posts: 160
    another dark day in cycling sport could be on the way.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366749n&tag=related;photovideo
  • babyjebus
    babyjebus Posts: 93
    We must be fully halfway to completing 'Lance!- The Musical'?
    I for one would pay for a wristband to see hits like 'If I Were Ullrich Man', 'Gimme Gimme Gimme (An Aspirin After Midnight)' and 'I'll Do Anything'.
  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    babyjebus wrote:
    'If I Were Ullrich Man'

    genius
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    babyjebus wrote:
    We must be fully halfway to completing 'Lance!- The Musical'?
    I for one would pay for a wristband to see hits like 'If I Were Ullrich Man', 'Gimme Gimme Gimme (An Aspirin After Midnight)' and 'I'll Do Anything'.

    "Springtime for Armstrong, and Johan B"

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