pins and needles in toes after 30mins ????

motopatter

Hi, I thought I'd ask here even though I commute on a mountain bike :oops:

I get pins and needles in all toes on both feet after a short time. I am riding in walking shoes or running shoes on flats but recall I had the same problem a few years ago when I had SPDs.

If I let my legs dangle the pins and needles seem to go a bit.
I suspect it could be something to do with socks or shoes or pedalling action?

Anyone had similar and shed any light on a possible reason / cure

tanks

redddraggon

Shoes too tight?

motopatter

sorry I meant to include that I usually have them quite loose. I have also had them tighter, but not too tight and had the same thing?

Could my saddle being a little too low be the cause? (the current seat pin is at the limit - I guess frame is too small)

thisischris

I used to get this when I ran. I found it was due to the rungs of laces closet to my toes being a bit too tight. Just my experience like...

silverpegleg

Something pressing slightly on the nerves to your toes.
It could be anywhere along the lenght of the nerve, from where it leaves your spine in the lower back to somewhere in your foot - as suggested.

When it happens, try adjusting your position - forwards or backwards in the saddle, this will slightly alter the angle of your back, see if you get any change - if it works you can normally get some adjustment in the saddle.
I was getting something similar on an exercise bike - and cured it by moving the saddle back about an 3/4 inch

DCowling

Mortons Neuroma

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Morton's-Neuroma.htm

I get it and by tweeking my saddle / cleats / insoles I have managed to minimise it but the harder I ride the worse t gets.
Just need to unclip from time to time and wriggle your toes.

p.s. cold exacerbates it so use covers in the winter time

Hope this helps

motopatter

DCowling wrote:

Mortons Neuroma

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Morton's-Neuroma.htm

I get it and by tweeking my saddle / cleats / insoles I have managed to minimise it but the harder I ride the worse t gets.
Just need to unclip from time to time and wriggle your toes.

p.s. cold exacerbates it so use covers in the winter time

Hope this helps

seems plausible, but it's more pins and needles and starts in big toe and quickly spreads accross all toes, both feet.

I may try saddle position, but did move it recently forward - I'll push it back a bit and see if I notice anything

-steves-

Had a similar thing myself

As mentioned even a cool moring can make the difference between this happening and not happening to me.

Things to fix this that helped along the way for me personally, and I am aware not all are applicable to you, in fact, it may turn out that are none appicable to you, but it may help others down the line.

Went from trainers and flats to SPD's and Specialzed shoes, helped massively

Loosened off the straps / laces on the footware, also big major difference.

Spent weeks moving the saddle about to minimize this, it appears it was way too low in the first place for me.

Marginally thicker socks, I think this helped to partly keep my feet warmer, but partly as a slightly better cushioning between foot and shoe, though had to be careful not to over tighten again.

Sometimes this still happens, more so on colder mornings as I tend to go out around 6am at the weekends, that way I get to spend more time with the mrs and kids . I have reduced it to very occasional now and am happy with that.

rick_chasey

Loosen your shoes.

DCowling

Here is what I tried as a process of elimination
1/ shorts, decent padding makes all the difference, I am on a bit of a budget but find dhb very good and comfy, even after 50 miles in the saddle
2/ position. this was trial and error but eventually got there
3/ shoes, not too tight and have put a gel insole in them ( you can go to a specialized dealer for a footbed measure)
4/ foot position, especially in cleats
5/ saddle ..... the pot at the end of the rainbow
6/ flex your toes whilst riding as they remain in a dormat position
7/ stand in the peddles every now and again to relieve pressure on the undercarraige
8/ stop, get off have a cake stop and let the nerves have a rest.

As I said, I only get it when riding hard ( by my standards), last Saturday 34 miles in 2hrs= pins and needles, on sunday with different riding buddy 34 miles in 2hrs 45min and no problem !! :?

I hope this helps as I was ( still am ) bothered by it, but was happy to learn in my case , it was not lack of circulation and therefore my toes were not going to drop off. if still in doubt pop and see your Doc

mrwibble

highly lightly to be shoes too tight perhaps you have wide feet?