Running

sheepsteeth

whyamihere wrote:

]Hands flat on the floor with knees straight.

is that something you do a lot?

tlw1

sheepsteeth wrote:

whyamihere wrote:

]Hands flat on the floor with knees straight.

is that something you do a lot?

Sounds like a ready to receive position

Stevo_666

whyamihere wrote:

What I wasn't expecting was that it would be my CV system that got tired, rather than my legs. I was expecting my CV to be fine from cycling, but my legs to die due to different muscle usage.

Opposite for me. Don't run much any more as the bike gets me plenty exercise, but after the first time I ran in a few months my legs were fecking killing me even though I wasn't nearly as out of breath while doing it.

Father Faff

This is all boloks. Mountain Biking and Golf are dangerous. I was once chased in Hackney riding along the towpath because the kids wanted my wheeels but I was too damn fit for the wee barstewards. And now I've had to resort to running cos I've bust my shoulder falling off the MTB. But fell running is good. Ok it hurts to start with but after a while you can run for miles and miles on reasonably soft and undulating ground and get a proper aerobic workout and it really is not so bad but obviously not as adrenaline inducing as a good bit of downhill mountainbiking but there you go if you can't actually ride your bike it is not a bad sport and I actually did my first ever fell race the other day and came 186 out of 205 so it just goes to show that us MTBers can hack it with those damn fit fell racers. And I got a bottle of Ilkley Brewery Jack Bloor Fell Race special brew just for finishing - can't beat that!

Anonymous

Father Faff, that's very considerate of you to warn us early on in your post that it's all bollocks. It saves us the embarrassment of reading it and taking you seriously.

Father Faff

Sorry not very coherent last night. What I meant to say is that fell running is pretty enjoyable and not as hard on the joints as road running IMO and you will get more aerobically fit than mtbing and it is less dangerous from a serious injury point of view though of course you obviously do get injured sometimes.

Andy

Sounds gay to me.

whyamihere

The sore legs were simply delayed by a day.

lvquestpaddler

I did it in my early 20's on the road and got thoroughly bored after a couple of years, never went much over 10k though. Recently since been out walking the dog on forest trails for up to 8 miles most days I realised I was walking as fast as I could so started running bits of it. A lot more fun than pounding concrete/tarmac you have to focus on every step or disaster will happen! Now up to 5 miles and that's enough.
I think a lot of people get injuries because they decide one day to start running and have barely walked any distance regularly for years, then they do repetitive road/treadmill running then one day vary the terrain then bang- injured.
When I come in from a bike ride I usually scoff loads and probably wipe out any potential losses in weight, but now when I go for a run(generally fartlek style- if the hill is too steep I'll walk it) you REALLY feel any excess weight and when I get back I don't feel hungry.
I think another problem is people don't really warm up properly- they leave the house and start running, a good way of knackering yourself. I walk up a steep hill at the back of the house as fast as I can then start running at the top, half a mile.
I'll never get into serious distance though, don't want that physique of Mr Bean thanks!
Ultra runners usually all look ill.....everything in moderation as they say!

Northwind

I've started running in an attempt to get a bit fitter. It's s**t is what it is. Only redeeming feature of it is that at least it's not running on a bloody treadmill, now that's grim.

KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:

fellching's where it's at kids

True

lvquestpaddler

I think once you get into off road cycling you realise how much varied terrain you can cover in a day, the gear changing/lines etc keep it interesting and there's even a bit of adrenaline buzz. That's why road and treadmill running suck big fat ones- tedious on a good day. I don't mind road cycling by myself but the thought of that in a group(peloton?!) where you're taking turns staring at the blokes arse in front is not appealing to me personally, never mind the danger of getting wiped out by an HGV or boy racer.
Running does have one major advantage over cycling though- kit, £100 should see some decent trainers and some clothes from Aldi/Lidl....
Just don't do it on hard surfaces and all should be well

shoddy

I do running. Roads for training and fells and trails for races.
I love it and i think its a great complement to mountain biking to give you a strong level of fitness.
For anytone wanting to give it a go, i would reccomend starting off with really short and easy runs and then building up the distance and pace slowly over a long period of time. In other words dont do too much too soon.

Father Faff

Well said. And it will also put you in a strong position to do something like the Open 5 series which combines mountain biking, trail running and navigation - I can thoroughly recommend them and apparently for the next series they are doing some races down South!

Andy

Father Faff wrote:

...Open 5 series...

KnightOfTheLongTights

Father Faff wrote:

I actually did my first ever fell race the other day and came 186 out of 205 so it just goes to show that us MTBers can hack it with those damn fit fell racers. And I got a bottle of Ilkley Brewery Jack Bloor Fell Race special brew just for finishing - can't beat that!

good work FF

I've got the Isle of Jura fell race coming up a week on Saturday ...
http://www.jurafellrace.org.uk/
<gulp>

Prepared by running reps up the steps at Box Hill for two hours on Saturday. Which was pleasant.

KnightOfTheLongTights

lvquestpaddler wrote:

IRunning does have one major advantage over cycling though- kit, £100 should see some decent trainers and some clothes from Aldi/Lidl....
Just don't do it on hard surfaces and all should be well

there are a few other nice things about trail / fell running as compared to cycling:
- more time and easier to look around
- not reliant on a machine, so no stopping for repairs etc
- sense of being absolutely unencumbered and, er 'free'

I can honestly say the greatest feeling I've ever had - verging on the spiritual - was running across the Coniston fells on a pristine March weekday morning with not another soul in sight.

When you're well practised, and are in the zone and get it right you can fly down terrain that might look impossible - steep boulder fields etc - as I'm sure is the case in MTBg.

Doing it on your own pegs like a mountain goat though is pretty rewarding.

Tartanyak

See, I can imagine that's fun. Trudging around a park or streets however, is dull as hell. I have little choice at the minute...

Although, my knee has now stopped working at about 90 degrees... If I wasn't so close to the floor naturally, I'd find picking things up painful.

Anonymous

Tartanyak wrote:

If I wasn't so close to the floor naturally, I'd find picking things up painful.

You must be like me then, bit of a monkey man!

KnightOfTheLongTights

Tartanyak wrote:

Although, my knee has now stopped working at about 90 degrees... If I wasn't so close to the floor naturally, I'd find picking things up painful.

yep, that's the pay-off, and why I'm taking up cycling

I intend to segue gradually from fellrunning to road cycling through my 40s before I totally f ** k up my lower back and ankles

knees weirdly have always been alright

[cue knee injury approx next thursday]

Tartanyak

Har, that is tempting fate!

I gave up anything that involved running when I was about 16 and removed a large lump of knee by accident Had to replace my hardtail with a full sus a few years ago to help the knee as well.

I'm less monkey, more weasel. Short legs, long body... Oh, I'm a shortarse as well

sheepsteeth

another run today and i hated it just as much as ever, i couldnt even be bothered to lift weights afterwards it was such a dreary affair

Tartanyak

Running has destroyed your soul.

sheepsteeth

Tartanyak wrote:

Running has destroyed your soul.

as i was running i was thinking baout this thread and hoping there were more people elswhere having just as rubbish a time as me.

Duki

I promised that I would accompany my other half on a run later this evening because she is trying to get fit and doesn't want to run alone.

I'm in my 50th year, somewhat over-weight, my knees are shot from rugby and I currenty have a heel condition called plantar faciitis. I think I might need sectioning.

sheepsteeth

you are definately off your tits

Duki

Other half came home from work, twas raining she didn't want to get wet, JOY.

Thewaylander

Running on roads is bad, like most animals we are designed to run on soft surfaces, like grassy plains and so on, running on concrete and tarmac provides really bad impact damage to your knee's and ankles.

I can't stand runnign used to go 3 times a week but i borked my knee and my ankle(thought 10 years of Wu Shu/TKD may have helped that) cycling is far less impact and lets be fair runing is mind numbing

Tartanyak

I'm going for another run this evening and I'll definitely be hoping someone else his having that there misery too. My knee's feeling better so I'd better go hurt it again...

I'm so buying a bike to leave here.

DCR00

i went for a run this morning

normally have an extra day off after doing a long-ish run (12km on Sunday) and cycle on a Tuesday, but didnt this morning and pulled up about 5 mins into the run with a sore calf

hoping its just a twinge and nothing more serious...

merlie

I've found that since doing more running than cycling recently then getting back on the bike - I find i can go a lot longer and harder now .... I still cant steer the ruddy think for toffee - but at least I aint the weakest link now !

And I recently found www.joggingbuddy.com to help find a local runner/jogger to share my pain .... like I did when I found the local MTB club in west drayton !