Magnatom's Helmet Vid on ITN News

HebdenBiker

Magnatom's roundabout run-in with a petrol tanker was just on the telly as an example of careless driving

bails87

Or, as the Transport Secretary would call it, "merely" careless driving.

redvee

I also recognized another clip from the back wheel of the bike, Gaz545 and a blue Merc A class trying to look down the lens of the rear facing camera.

HebdenBiker

Just been on Channel 4 news as well. Tom's high-pitched scream is now famous

Agent57

Got a Youtube link?

HebdenBiker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fqACT1jNV0

SmellTheGlove

Tom's truck moment is the essence of scary but the view seems a bit distorted; which means that it could, in fact, have been worse than it looks.

Agent57

Ah, yeah, I remember watching that. Shame about the inability to prosecute the driver, despite his admission at the time.

Flyingbogey

Saw the Gaz545 on Sky news this am, I excitedly tell the lads at work, "thats one of the forum blokes", cue much litter throwing and "stop going on about that bloody forum". Apparently i've changed...

thinbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmN1WAUj ... ature=fvwp
STV news clip on him

DonDaddyD

I remember when this was originally posted on this website and some bellends (and you are) were trying to claim the cyclist was in the wrong during the roundabout situation and that he should of waited until it was absolutely clear. You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

Chapeau to this guy for his persistence with this.

We've often complained about road users, we (in London) got cycle 'superlanes' and those solved some problems and created others. But by actually recording the incidents it shows some road users for the dangerous louts they are, shows that cyclists aren't all nuisances and that we can, quite often, be the innocent victims.

But most importantly it raises the question of why the police aren't doing enough to protect us vulnerable road users where there is evidence to prosecute?

Chapeau to all the others doing this as well.

They need to hand out free helmet cameras.

Wallace1492

The roundabout incident is at a place about 500yards from where I live and I go round it twice a day. Very scary situation. It is a badly designed bit of road and has a cycle lane cutting off past it that leads cyclists right across a small side road where there are hardly ever any cars.... but now and again there are!

All power to Magnatom!!

gaz545

A few cycling videos from cyclists where used yesterday. Speaking to those i know, we had no idea they would be used.

Drysuitdiver

DonDaddyD wrote:

I remember when this was originally posted on this website and some bellends (and you are) were trying to claim the cyclist was in the wrong during the roundabout situation and that he should have waited until it was absolutely clear. You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

Chapeau to this guy for his persistence with this.

We've often complained about road users, we (in London) got cycle 'superlanes' and those solved some problems and created others. But by actually recording the incidents it shows some road users for the dangerous louts they are, shows that cyclists aren't all nuisances and that we can, quite often, be the innocent victims.

But most importantly it raises the question of why the police aren't doing enough to protect us vulnerable road users where there is evidence to prosecute?

Chapeau to all the others doing this as well.

They need to hand out free helmet cameras.

I crosds posted to another forum I use ( diving related) and an Approved Driving Instructor posted that the cyclist was in the wrong. we are truly fooked if thats what is being taught.

johnboy183

Wow just watched footage, glad magnatom wasn't hurt, very scary. So scary think i'm going to have to buy a camera.
Any links for tv progs that have featured this and why now?

asprilla

Drysuitdiver wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

I remember when this was originally posted on this website and some bellends (and you are) were trying to claim the cyclist was in the wrong during the roundabout situation and that he should have waited until it was absolutely clear. You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

Chapeau to this guy for his persistence with this.

We've often complained about road users, we (in London) got cycle 'superlanes' and those solved some problems and created others. But by actually recording the incidents it shows some road users for the dangerous louts they are, shows that cyclists aren't all nuisances and that we can, quite often, be the innocent victims.

But most importantly it raises the question of why the police aren't doing enough to protect us vulnerable road users where there is evidence to prosecute?

Chapeau to all the others doing this as well.

They need to hand out free helmet cameras.

I crosds posted to another forum I use ( diving related) and an Approved Driving Instructor posted that the cyclist was in the wrong. we are truly fooked if thats what is being taught.

Any chance of a link back to the original post here, or the other forum so I can see why he was wrong?

shm_uk

and an Approved Driving Instructor posted that the cyclist was in the wrong

Unfortunately there are plenty of people out there who's default response will always be "you are a cyclist, therefore you are in the wrong", without even questioning or thinking about it.

DonDaddyD

Aspirilla wrote:

Any chance of a link back to the original post here, or the other forum so I can see why he was wrong?

This thread I think:

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=

Edit: Yep some gems:

If the roundabout exit the cyclist took was the one he intended to use all along, he was in the wrong lane on the roundabout. This would confuse other traffic (well me, anyway) around the cyclist, as they would expect the bike to be going more than half way around the roundabout.

Has to be said that the vid will make it look worse than it was in reality. The lorry can't have appeared from nowhere - the surprise would be that it pulled out but the cyclist should possibly have been more aware of that possibility than the viewer of the video could be.

My views on that "cyclist" are well known on another forum! Look at the video again; he is approaching a roundabout and his speed does not seem to change.
The road that the tanker was on and the road that the "cyclist" was on appear to enter the roundabout at about the same point. Given that the camera was helmet mounted, I did not detect even a cursory glance to the left; I realise that the cyclist may be able to turn his eyes to the left and may have peripheral vision, any traffic approaching from the left would have been unsighted so what does he do? No traffic from the right, he does not seem to care about traffic from the left so he goes blindly on.
Why does he have more experiences than most of us? No road sense whatsoever, no appreciation of his surroundings. As long as he has a hole in his proverbial, he will never be a cyclist; just someone who can propel himself forward on a bike.

All on the first page.

Mr Plum

SmellTheGlove wrote:

Tom's truck moment is the essence of scary but the view seems a bit distorted; which means that it could, in fact, have been worse than it looks.

+1

It's a pretty wide angle lens so the truck looks further away on the video that it would have physically been. Either way, I would have certainly sh*t a brick...

daviesee

My views on that "cyclist" are well known on another forum! Look at the video again; he is approaching a roundabout and his speed does not seem to change.
The road that the tanker was on and the road that the "cyclist" was on appear to enter the roundabout at about the same point. Given that the camera was helmet mounted, I did not detect even a cursory glance to the left; I realise that the cyclist may be able to turn his eyes to the left and may have peripheral vision, any traffic approaching from the left would have been unsighted so what does he do? No traffic from the right, he does not seem to care about traffic from the left so he goes blindly on.
Why does he have more experiences than most of us? No road sense whatsoever, no appreciation of his surroundings. As long as he has a hole in his proverbial, he will never be a cyclist; just someone who can propel himself forward on a bike.

Knob!

On a roundabout you give way to the right so there "should" be no need to look left.

On the other hand there is no point being right but dead.

Wallace1492

My views on that "cyclist" are well known on another forum! Look at the video again; he is approaching a roundabout and his speed does not seem to change.
The road that the tanker was on and the road that the "cyclist" was on appear to enter the roundabout at about the same point. Given that the camera was helmet mounted, I did not detect even a cursory glance to the left; I realise that the cyclist may be able to turn his eyes to the left and may have peripheral vision, any traffic approaching from the left would have been unsighted so what does he do? No traffic from the right, he does not seem to care about traffic from the left so he goes blindly on.
Why does he have more experiences than most of us? No road sense whatsoever, no appreciation of his surroundings. As long as he has a hole in his proverbial, he will never be a cyclist; just someone who can propel himself forward on a bike.

From someone who passes through that roundabout everyday, I can assure you that the two roads joining it do not join at the same point! In fact I have yet to see a roundabout where two roads join at the same point. There is plenty of open ground for the lorry to see the cyclist, yet the lorry ploughs on. Tom has right of way and quite rightly should carry on. The Lorry driver is completely in the wrong.

Comments like the one above really gets my goat. The person was not there, does not know the road, the conditions or the positioning of the traffic, yet can talk a whole pile of nonsense.