What Carbon ? Looking For Super Aggressive Geometry

gb155

Hey All

Looking at getting myself a Madone as it seems to have an aggressive Geometry like my CAAD9 (I may be wrong though), What other carbon bikes out there have the same aggressiveness as the Cannondale CAAD9?

Thanks

Gaz

rozzer32

Cannondale Super Six

Anonymous

Any carbon race-oriented bike!

But if you love your CAAD9 then a supersix is the natural choice...

gb155

NapoleonD wrote:

Any carbon race-oriented bike!

But if you love your CAAD9 then a supersix is the natural choice...

But what are they

Scott CR1 ?

Super Six

But then Im suck on the alternatives TBH

danowat

Spesh Tarmac

Rule74Please

Define aggressive

Do you mean a low front end low hadlebar position or steep head angles

gb155

danowat wrote:

Spesh Tarmac

Looks a little more relaxed than the Cannodnale tho?

FransJacques

Ribble Stealth/DeRosa 838/CarbonZone/PedalForce PR3.

They look sweet, just got one for the little lady (I got her the Ribble one) just incredible what £500 can get you these days.

Really impressed.

Not totally impressed that it didn't come with anything - no HS, no headtube spacers (Giants, Cervelos, Canyons come with the stuff), it just took more time to get it all.

gb155

Rule74Please wrote:

Define aggressive

Do you mean a low front end low hadlebar position or steep head angles

Cannondale CAAD9

Horizontal Top Tube, Stiff as a board !

nferrar

Budget? There's team issue type specials with super-short head tube (like the Wilier Cento Uno). Otherwise just check the geo on your CAAD and compare with other bikes...

gb155

nferrar wrote:

Budget? There's team issue type specials with super-short head tube (like the Wilier Cento Uno). Otherwise just check the geo on your CAAD and compare with other bikes...

Looking a the second hand market first upto around £1300

Im not sure what on the Geo it is I need to check , thats the issue

danowat

gb155 wrote:

Horizontal Top Tube, Stiff as a board !

You can have a horizontal top tube and stiff bike without it having "aggresive" geometry.

gb155

danowat wrote:

gb155 wrote:

Horizontal Top Tube, Stiff as a board !

You can have a horizontal top tube and stiff bike without it having "aggresive" geometry.

Thus proving the point I need help

kingrollo

I always like the look of the Orbea Orca - could never finance it though !

Marko1962

I'm surprised no-ones mentioned the Scott Addict...

amaferanga

Why do you need an agressive bike? Most bikes will be plenty stiff enough for your average cyclist and most will allow you to get the bars plenty low enough.

Don't you have a Trek Madone replica anyway?

Anonymous

Consequently you can have a sloping TT and an aggressive bike...

Sone to consider-

Cannondale supersix
Cervelo (any but the RS)
Colnago (any)
Spesh Tarmac
Planet X
FM015
Trek Madone Pro Fit

Bloody hell, I could go on forever!

First port of call would be the cannondale though as you'll get a perfect fit match with your caad 9...

Ciclicasati

Cervelo S2

gb155

Would any of the Ribble brands equate to what I am looking for ?

I'd guess the Ribble Nero RC Sram?

nferrar

Nero RC and Scuro RS, probably some of the others as well

gb155

What about the Grand Fondo too ?

58585

You could go custom for that money:

Gav2000

58585 wrote:

You could go custom for that money:

I assume his chain was better adjusted when he rode the hour!

Gav2000

All black - very aggressive, grrrrr!

Omar Little

Had a look on your blog (btw cracking work on the weight loss - were you featured in one of the cycling mags a couple of months back?) and you have spacers and a rise on the stem with your madone and caad9, so maybe a super aggressive geometry isn't what is best suited?

EKIMIKE

As with the above post, looking at your China build, an aggressive geometry really isn't for you.



There's a good 4-5cm of spacers there which would totally negate any aggressive position. Pretty much any top end/just below carbon frame from any of the well known manufacturers will be stiff enough for any of us.

If you like American style of bike like Trek's then why not get a Cannondale SuperSix? Great reputation in terms of function (stiffness, handling). Horizontal top-tube as you have specified. Surely the perfect answer to the brief? They've also just announced a new model so if you wait a few months there could be some great deals on current stock (although the words 'in-stock' and Cannondale are almost never seen on the same page).

Anonymous

Holy crap! That's a LOT of spacers :shock:

Yet you want an aggressive geometry?!

I'd say your better off getting a more relaxed geometry with less spacers...

wildmoustache

LOL at that stack. Please tell me that's not yours and your are asking for aggressive geo?

A lot fewer road bikes have short HTs these days. Wililer have one. Spesh have moved to big HTs, as have Cervelo

itsnotarace

Gav2000 wrote:

All black - very aggressive, grrrrr!

That is not "aggressive" race geometry, as everyone else has pointed out already. That bike has a long headtube, and is further hindered by a 30mm stack of spacers as well as an "pointy-uppy" stem.

What you are showing in that picture is what most manufacturers would class as a relaxed "sportive" geometry

An "aggressive" geometry is all about minimising frontal area (thus cutting wind resistance) on the bike by getting the rider as low as possible over the front end of the bike. An aggressive geometry bike will have a short head tube, a lack of spacers and usually a stem that angles downwards, or at least horizontal.

For example:



Ignore the saddle to bar drop in the above pic, what you are looking at is the stem, headtube and bar position - when riding in the drops their hands will almost be the same height as the top of the wheels.

Simply put, most normal people would find riding that low incredibly painful after a while due to constant straining of the neck to see where you're going.

Are you trying to describe "traditional geometry" frames with a horizontal top tube? Even the CAAD is sloping but only a few degrees. Sounds like you are trying to describe a classic Colnago

gb155

wildmoustache wrote:

LOL at that stack. Please tell me that's not yours and your are asking for aggressive geo?

A lot fewer road bikes have short HTs these days. Wililer have one. Spesh have moved to big HTs, as have Cervelo

It is, but its not looked like that since after day 1

58585

Actually I think that amount of spacers is a bordering on dangerous, be careful...
I would say (ok, another armchair expert opinion) that frame is a couple of sizes too small.
Really this search for the most extreme geometry, stiffest frame etc is a bad route to follow, you run the risk of ending up with a bike you hate riding, back pain and no desire to get out and ride.