Why no handbook?
dirkdiggler69
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Buy a car and the handbook is there in the glovebox with handy hints and tips like how everything in the car works.
Buy a motorcycle and the handbook comes with it with handy hints and tips like how everything on the motorcycle works.
Buy a bicycle and the handbook is
well there is'nt one.
Is this an LBS conspiracy to make sure you keep going back to them to have everything adjusted by them and be charged for the privelege?
discuss.
Buy a motorcycle and the handbook comes with it with handy hints and tips like how everything on the motorcycle works.
Buy a bicycle and the handbook is
well there is'nt one.
Is this an LBS conspiracy to make sure you keep going back to them to have everything adjusted by them and be charged for the privelege?
discuss.
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Odd, I've had a handbook/manual with all the bikes I've bought.Where would you be if you fell down a hole?.. Stuck down a hole... in the fog... Stuck down a hole, in the fog, at night... WITH AN OWL!0
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I have always had a hand book when I buy a new bike, got one with my Giant Defy last year.
To be fair car and motor bike hand books normally take you through the controls etc, they do not tell you how to service the thing yourself avoiding going back to the shop.
If you have just bought a new bike and did not get a hand book ask the shop why.0 -
I got one with my Spesh, but not with my Kuota.
To be fair, you can get groupset docs from the manufacturers websites, so they are pretty defunct anyway.0 -
dirkdiggler69
not all shop hand them out with the bikes. Ask the seller for it.
they are useless BTW."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
Parktools :?:SheldonBrown0 -
handbook is pointless. when you get one for a bike with a bike it's a load of rubbish.
your bike is made by attaching lots of independent components together - frame, wheels, groupset, saddle etc. so the potential variations in "handbook" are endless and noone makes a proper one.
what you really want is a handbook for each component or set of components. you probably did get that with your bike - lots of little booklets. If you didn't they're readily available online.0 -
What information do you expect from a handbook:
"sit on saddle an pedal"
"don't be a numptie and ride with the wheel QRs open"
"ride fast and hit something and you will die"?
Most of the info is basically a series of legal disclaimers to tell you that in the event of something going wrong, it's not the bike manufacturers fault.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0 -
Exactly. Do you actually need one?0
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I had loads with my old Specialized - Bike manual from Spec, Shimano guides/leaflets for the parts and a Fork servicing manual. Just bought a S/H road bike and the guy gave me the old service manual for that too.0
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Hmm. I've usually had a handbook with new bikes. On my current steed I did the same as with all the others and shoved the booklet in a corner of the garage. When the seat post clamp failed on it Evans wriggled out of the warranty claim by pointing to the bit in the book that says 'clean the seat post at least monthly'. Due to a disagreement on how me cleaning the post would have prevented the aluminum / carbon bond in the locking cam from failing, I'm no longer welcome in Evans. But it's worth a read just for things like that.Monty Dog wrote:What information do you expect from a handbook:
"sit on saddle an pedal"
"don't be a numptie and ride with the wheel QRs open"
"ride fast and hit something and you will die"?
Most of the info is basically a series of legal disclaimers to tell you that in the event of something going wrong, it's not the bike manufacturers fault.0 -
I had a handbook and CD with my last Trek. I've just finished uploading the latest service pack to the bike.
Purveyor of "up"0 -
I got handbook with my focus. The only part I remember reading was that the bike was not intended for use on public roads :?0
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Must just be me then.
When i picked up my new Wilier i got nothing at all with it apart from the reciept.
It would have been nice to know how to adjust the front and rear deraileur.
How to adjust and centre the brakes, and also that the little button on the Campag hood releases the brake lever so you can get the wheels on and off easier.
Where to apply and what types of grease or oil to use after washing the bike etc etc etc.
but never mind i'll just buy a couple of books,download some instructions off the Campag website and learn as i go.0 -
Got all kinds of things with my BeOne.
Shimano brakes manual
Shimano front and rear derailleurs manuals
Shimano shifters manuals
FSA chainset & BB installation manual
and a BeOne general manual that was very handy for propping up a slightly short leg on my dining table- - - - - - - - - -
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Most of the manuals I've seen come from the US firms, and 80% of the material is warnings and legal disclaimers. Occasionally there's helpful information about proprietary components like steerers, but most of it is vague, generic advice. Same with anything from Halfords.
I'm a keen user of Shimano Tech Docs and Park Tools website, avid Sheldon Brown reader, and frequent YouTube video viewer.0
