Stroker bleeding

supafly1982
supafly1982 Posts: 631
edited April 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
ive just read this guide

http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/artic ... akes-24515

on my old bike the rear brakes on the bike arent too clever, stopping power is poor so im guessing theres air and they need bled, however the pads look like they could maybe do with new ones, would you reccomend new pads if in doubt?
and in this article they talk of clearence and adjustment if the pads dont clear the rotors, would this just be a case of resetting the pistons more and then seting the calipers?

cheers
scott

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    why would they need a bleed?

    are they spongy?

    have a read

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12666026
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  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    good thread, thanks for that :)

    the brake lever pulls very far back and still does not stop to well, i would say they dont feel very responsive at all, well just the rear set, would needing new pads be the case in this instance?

    any reccomendations for pads, not too dear, this bike will be sold soon, i just want to make sure its all in good order before i sell it.
  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    well i done what was in the above post by Nicklouse in regards to cleaning and this never worked, pads and rotor are spotless, ive adjusted the lever so it engages at a better position, when i squeeze it feels like the breaks should be stopping but theres no power, im guessing its time for a bleed
  • anjs
    anjs Posts: 486
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpdTKzgoVGk


    Should help with the procedure
  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    anjs wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpdTKzgoVGk


    Should help with the procedure

    excellent thanks anjs, had to laugh at the poor sod that broke his pistons in the comments :lol:
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Bleeding won't help with power as such, just sponginess. If the brakes aren't spongy, it's probably pads.
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  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    yeah one of the pads is pretty worn, do any of you guys use feeler gauges like in the youtube vid (hayes gauge) when setting the brakes or do you tend to just set them solely off the rotor?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Just replace the pads and centre the calipers.
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  • tri-sexual
    tri-sexual Posts: 672
    if your pads are worn then change them,
    if your brakes feel spongy and lacking stopping power then bleed them, really simple procedure that takes minutes, i do recommend using the proper hayes kit if you are abit of a novice otherwise you can make your brakes worse by introducing more air into the system than you started with
  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    tri-sexual wrote:
    if your pads are worn then change them,
    if your brakes feel spongy and lacking stopping power then bleed them, really simple procedure that takes minutes, i do recommend using the proper hayes kit if you are abit of a novice otherwise you can make your brakes worse by introducing more air into the system than you started with

    yea ive got a hayes kit in the shed, one of those rainy day buy's :lol:
  • If your brakes are lacking power it's probably due to a lack of friction. Try rubbing your rotors down with a coarse grade sand paper to restore the friction and sand the surface of the pads as they'll be be polished Or replace them if they're worn. you'll find you get the bite back into the brakes.
    Bed them in properly, and normal service will be restored.
  • alexj2233
    alexj2233 Posts: 381
    tri-sexual wrote:
    i do recommend using the proper hayes kit if you are abit of a novice otherwise you can make your brakes worse by introducing more air into the system than you started with

    Very this!
    I found bleeding my strokers a right pain, probably because I was rubbish at it.
    I would recommend buying a big bottle of car brake fluid from halfords or somewhere (obviously making sure it's the right type) then if you don't get it right you have plenty of fluid that isn't costing a fortune like the Hayes own brand stuff.
  • supafly1982
    supafly1982 Posts: 631
    alexj2233 wrote:
    tri-sexual wrote:
    i do recommend using the proper hayes kit if you are abit of a novice otherwise you can make your brakes worse by introducing more air into the system than you started with

    Very this!
    I found bleeding my strokers a right pain, probably because I was rubbish at it.
    I would recommend buying a big bottle of car brake fluid from halfords or somewhere (obviously making sure it's the right type) then if you don't get it right you have plenty of fluid that isn't costing a fortune like the Hayes own brand stuff.

    yup dot 3 and dot 4 are the most common car brake fluids, although dot 5.1 is fast becomming the trend, but not for bikes as far as i know
  • Avid elixir's uses 5.1 now I believe.

    You can get DOT 4 from Asda, think its only £4 for a 500ml bottle. That's plenty enough for your brakes. That's what I use for my car and Strokers. Never had problems.

    HTH
    Padyak rider