New ghetto tubeless method
cavegiant
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Hi,
I have been a long term fan of ghetto tubeless (split tube s don't like burps).
One thing has always bugged me, it is a pain to inflate those tyres.
You either have to use a compressor, CO2 or a hell of a lot of effort with a big pump.
All I wanted was a simple way of making the tyres stay next to the rim.
Easy, glue them.
Seemed such a simple idea that I was sure someone has to have done it before.
Searched online for ages, asked a ton of people no-one appears to have tried it (or they have kept it to themselves if they had).
I knew I would need an adhesive that is a mild contact adhesive, flexible and bonds rubber.
Simples.
Well after a ton of different glues I found a winner, and best of all it is cheap too.
Standard, run of the mill UHU.
You can buy a big tube at the £ store, probably at the $ store too.
New way of mounting ghetto tubeless.
Mount a split tube
Mount tyre, generously apply UHU to bead and gap above bead on one side.
Push that side onto the rim and hold down for 5 mintues, then leave 5 more to dry.
thickly apply glue to other bead (and grove above bead)
gently pull the tyre over to that side (gravity is your friend here)
Once that side is holding in place, give it a few pumps from your track pump and it should inflate first time.
Thankfully on my first ride I took out a sidewall so got to test how easy it was to repair.
I peeled back a small gap stuck a patch on the iside and it reinflated with a minipump easily.
I am sure somone must have done this before, but it needs to be more common knowledge.
Hope this helps, PM me or post here if you try it.
p.s. really look for UHU most glues do not work.
I have been a long term fan of ghetto tubeless (split tube s don't like burps).
One thing has always bugged me, it is a pain to inflate those tyres.
You either have to use a compressor, CO2 or a hell of a lot of effort with a big pump.
All I wanted was a simple way of making the tyres stay next to the rim.
Easy, glue them.
Seemed such a simple idea that I was sure someone has to have done it before.
Searched online for ages, asked a ton of people no-one appears to have tried it (or they have kept it to themselves if they had).
I knew I would need an adhesive that is a mild contact adhesive, flexible and bonds rubber.
Simples.
Well after a ton of different glues I found a winner, and best of all it is cheap too.
Standard, run of the mill UHU.
You can buy a big tube at the £ store, probably at the $ store too.
New way of mounting ghetto tubeless.
Mount a split tube
Mount tyre, generously apply UHU to bead and gap above bead on one side.
Push that side onto the rim and hold down for 5 mintues, then leave 5 more to dry.
thickly apply glue to other bead (and grove above bead)
gently pull the tyre over to that side (gravity is your friend here)
Once that side is holding in place, give it a few pumps from your track pump and it should inflate first time.
Thankfully on my first ride I took out a sidewall so got to test how easy it was to repair.
I peeled back a small gap stuck a patch on the iside and it reinflated with a minipump easily.
I am sure somone must have done this before, but it needs to be more common knowledge.
Hope this helps, PM me or post here if you try it.
p.s. really look for UHU most glues do not work.
Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?
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Anyone thinking about trying this, want it to stay high so more people see it?Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0
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no..
but you need to tell us exactly which glue you think works... brand, volume etc.
There are loads of uhu glues out there.0 -
Mmm
brings back memories.
"Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
Parktools :?:SheldonBrown0 -
Would have thought rubber cement (used to be called Cow Gum, but no longer made under that name) would have been ideal for this. Extremely flexible, and can be easily peeled off if you get it wrong or change your mind.0
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Any glue considered has to be easy to get off rim when you remove the tyre.You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.0 -
bamba wrote:How do you go about getting the tyre off when you want to change it ?
That is the reason for using UHU, it peels very easily.
No harder to remove than a normal ghetto tubeless that you have used sealant in.Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0 -
wheezee wrote:Would have thought rubber cement (used to be called Cow Gum, but no longer made) would have been ideal for this. Extremely flexible, and can be easily peeled off if you get it wrong or change your mind.
Sounds like it might workWhy would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0 -
Daz555 wrote:Any glue considered has to be easy to get off rim when you remove the tyre.
You should be using a split tube. No glue gets on the rim.
UHU is very weak glue, so any spill is easily removed (one of the key things I was looking for, didn't want an unremovable adhesive.Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0 -
re split tube size.
I am on 29" rims, and have used 20 and 24" tubes in the past.
I would use a 20" on a 26" to make it snug. the smaller the tube the more weight you save!Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0 -
.... one more question
Did you use Stan's No Tubes fluid?
I recall reading smewhere that latex solution would work just as well but at a fction of the price.0 -
I use either stan's or Joe's.
Joe's clotts a lot better, but costs a lot more. Depends how cheap I am feeling.
No sealant currently in my front tyre, am trying it out with just glue to see how it performs.Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0 -
thinking about going ghetto myself.
if you dont run sealant then surely if you get a thorn in it'll just punture!!!0 -
Undoubtedly, but want to see how well it is holding air without seal. so far, no leaks.Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?0
