Riding on the pavement. Illegal / Acceptable?

petemadoc

Pokerface wrote:

I don't stop at red lights in my car in the middle of the night if there is no traffic around. Perfectly acceptable I feel.

Ooooooh, a whole new kettle of fish!

I haven't revisited this thread for a while, it's got pretty heated :shock:

I rode on the pavement this morning

bompington

philthy3 wrote:

It's simple; I don't agree with cycling on the pavement.

I don't agree with drinking cheap lager, watching soaps or wearing unnecessarily expensive cycling gear, so I demand that any of you who do these things stop at once.

Cleat Eastwood

bompington wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

It's simple; I don't agree with cycling on the pavement.

I don't agree with drinking cheap lager, watching soaps or wearing unnecessarily expensive cycling gear, so I demand that any of you who do these things stop at once.

And I don't agree with people who disagree.....oh hold on!!!

shouldbeinbed

bompington wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

It's simple; I don't agree with cycling on the pavement.

I don't agree with drinking cheap lager, watching soaps or wearing unnecessarily expensive cycling gear, so I demand that any of you who do these things stop at once.

totally agree (esp the soaps after a week at my mum's) but are any of those illegal?

petemadoc

shouldbeinbed wrote:

bompington wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

It's simple; I don't agree with cycling on the pavement.

I don't agree with drinking cheap lager, watching soaps or wearing unnecessarily expensive cycling gear, so I demand that any of you who do these things stop at once.

totally agree (esp the soaps after a week at my mum's) but are any of those illegal?

Watching soaps and drinking cheap lager is illegal in our house!

awallace

philthy3 - I think this forum is great for the range of people who post on here come from different backgrounds and jobs. Some have knowledge of the law and others about mechanics. Some history and others mathematics. As a representtitve of the police service i think you have a responsibilty to ensure that you dont bring personal feeling too far in to what is being discussed.

By all means have an opinion but ensure you are not going to misrepresent what the police service wants/states/asks you to do. This would apply to firemen, nurses, teachers or any other job for that matter.

Have the strongest opinions in the world but that opinion is yours not "Im this that or t'other and this is how it is" It doesnt help hard working police officers out there who try to engage with people and work with the public not against them. And yes they do exist. Anyway......

StillGoing

I think you have misinterpreted the posts here. Paul Boatengs letter is an advisory note. It is not compulsory. If it were, Chief Constables and process departments up and down the country woud have made it widely known. Fact is, we're all too busy to be reading every document that comes out of the Home Office, NPIA, HMIC etc and have departments that will release what is important and relevant to the rest of us.

Now here's how it works for me; I don't patrol up and down the streets looking for cyclists on the pavement just as I don't patrol looking for speeding drivers or whatever. I have to attend too many meetings If I'm walking from one meeting to the next and a cyclist comes towards me or by me on the pavement I stop them. I tell them to get off and push it or get on the road, and show a bit more common sense. Having attended numerous residents surgeries with Neighbourhood Officers, The vast majority of them's biggest moan is cyclists on the pavement. If those officers don't deal with cyclists on the pavement, I can guarantee that my phone will ring with someone twitching behind a curtain wanting to know why PC so and so didn't tell a cyclist to get off their bike at 12:15 on the 23rd June 2010. The neighbourhoods set the priorities and unfortunately for cyclists on the pavement, they're one of them. It just so happens I sympathise and agree with them.

I've said this thread is closed for me and only posted because you directed your post at me. It is closed for me.

RideOnTime

So anyway,

Yesterday I was walking down the High St and they came at me 3 abreast - two of them in those orange tinted glasses. These machines had been pimped and were doing an easy 10 mph. Deadly. :roll: :? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Daz555

Blimey this thread got carried away.

As for when I feel riding on pavements is ok:

1. Shared pavements.

2. When escorting a young child learning to ride. I usually try to remain roadside but there are times when I need to nip onto the pavement briefy to assist my children with a certain section or because the road takes me away from the pavement.

Do I obey the rules of the road/pavement 100% of the time? No, I'm not perfect.

zx6man

Under 16's can't be issued tickets and the like, so can get away with pavement riding innit.

me-109

GiantMike wrote:

Dungarees? On a bike? Is that legal or acceptable?

It's legal but it's not acceptable. In fact, I'm not sure dungarees are ever acceptable*.

*I may have to look for acceptable images in other threads on BB.

RideOnTime

Me-109 wrote:

GiantMike wrote:

Dungarees? On a bike? Is that legal or acceptable?

It's legal but it's not acceptable. In fact, I'm not sure dungarees are ever acceptable*.

*I may have to look for acceptable images in other threads on BB.

No, its not even legal.

shdaxner

Although i do know that cycling on a pavement is illegal there is a part of my commute (Rooley lane lights near Asda if anybody knows it) which is a 3 lane 40mph road and i have to get into the right hand lane to turn right, when the roads are quiet or if the lights behind are kind to me then moving over is fine but in rush hour traffic when most of the vehicles are doing 40+ mph i dont hesitate to join the pathway about 20 metres before a crossing and use the crossing, i always try to stay on the road and must say that about 75% of the time i do.

RideOnTime

shdaxner wrote:

Although i do know that cycling on a pavement is illegal there is a part of my commute (Rooley lane lights near Asda if anybody knows it) which is a 3 lane 40mph road and i have to get into the right hand lane to turn right, when the roads are quiet or if the lights behind are kind to me then moving over is fine but in rush hour traffic when most of the vehicles are doing 40+ mph i dont hesitate to join the pathway about 20 metres before a crossing and use the crossing, i always try to stay on the road and must say that about 75% of the time i do.

If you were wearing dungarees that would illegal.

Lagrange

Cycling is fun - meant to be - cycling on the pavement is more fun that on the road. So it is not legal - who cares. DO IT!

iainment

Lagrange wrote:

Cycling is fun - meant to be - cycling on the pavement is more fun that on the road. So it is not legal - who cares. DO IT!

Don't think about it DO IT!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nagC41Pe4c4

Yellow Peril

Don't cycle on the pavement.

Before you know it the authorities decide that is the place where all bikes belong and paint a big white stripe down the middle of the footpath to separate you from pedestrians... then ban you from the road.

Be careful what you wish for.

RideOnTime

iainment wrote:

Lagrange wrote:

Cycling is fun - meant to be - cycling on the pavement is more fun that on the road. So it is not legal - who cares. DO IT!

Don't think about it DO IT!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nagC41Pe4c4

subversive and dangerous words.

RideOnTime

Just in case I've reported you to Cllr Quinn;

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12909685

Lagrange

RideOnTime wrote:

Just in case I've reported you to Cllr Quinn;

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12909685

whaaaaaaat - The MIGHTY Quinn!!!!!?????

markrst1

I only use the road but each to there own.

MountainMonster

philthy3 wrote:

I'm sure it happens many times a day where someone cycles across the pavement chasing rapists, although in 26 years of policing I've never seen or heard of it and I doubt I ever will. OK you want a scenario where I consider it safe to cycle on the pavement; when you're riding a 3 wheel child's tricycle or wearing stabilisers going up and down the pavement outside your house, but getting off each time there's a pedestrian. But that isn't what this thread was about. It was about idiotic adults who see it as their right to cycle along the pavement because they're too scaredy pants or lazy to use the road like every other responsible cyclist who has a brain.

In 26 years of policing I have never issued a FPN for cycling on the pavement, having read some of the moronic responses on here and the predictable plod insults, I'm sure there's a first time. Just like a driver's attitude will get them away with a bollocking, a cyclist's anti attitude as displayed by some on here would certainly ensure they get the FPN.

I'm off now to cycle to work on the road but I might just jump onto the pavement if I see a rapist or there's a massive 100 yd queue of traffic blocking my way and I don't feel like getting off and walking..

I get you are also one of the Feds that try to arrest people for smoking a joint, without having anything on their personal.

Reading through this thread and I can fairly say you are a nitwit, and thank goodness I don't live Inyour town. Black and white policing does nothing but cause problems.

RideOnTime

Lagrange wrote:

RideOnTime wrote:

Just in case I've reported you to Cllr Quinn;

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12909685

whaaaaaaat - The MIGHTY Quinn!!!!!?????

he's bad
he's mad
no
he's sad

Lagrange

??? who...ME!!!???

Pituophis

MountainMonster wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

I'm sure it happens many times a day where someone cycles across the pavement chasing rapists, although in 26 years of policing I've never seen or heard of it and I doubt I ever will. OK you want a scenario where I consider it safe to cycle on the pavement; when you're riding a 3 wheel child's tricycle or wearing stabilisers going up and down the pavement outside your house, but getting off each time there's a pedestrian. But that isn't what this thread was about. It was about idiotic adults who see it as their right to cycle along the pavement because they're too scaredy pants or lazy to use the road like every other responsible cyclist who has a brain.

In 26 years of policing I have never issued a FPN for cycling on the pavement, having read some of the moronic responses on here and the predictable plod insults, I'm sure there's a first time. Just like a driver's attitude will get them away with a bollocking, a cyclist's anti attitude as displayed by some on here would certainly ensure they get the FPN.

I'm off now to cycle to work on the road but I might just jump onto the pavement if I see a rapist or there's a massive 100 yd queue of traffic blocking my way and I don't feel like getting off and walking..

I get you are also one of the Feds that try to arrest people for smoking a joint, without having anything on their personal.

Reading through this thread and I can fairly say you are a nitwit, and thank goodness I don't live Inyour town. Black and white policing does nothing but cause problems.

You are smoking waaaay too much mate, your heads in the wrong country

MountainMonster

Pituophis wrote:

MountainMonster wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

I'm sure it happens many times a day where someone cycles across the pavement chasing rapists, although in 26 years of policing I've never seen or heard of it and I doubt I ever will. OK you want a scenario where I consider it safe to cycle on the pavement; when you're riding a 3 wheel child's tricycle or wearing stabilisers going up and down the pavement outside your house, but getting off each time there's a pedestrian. But that isn't what this thread was about. It was about idiotic adults who see it as their right to cycle along the pavement because they're too scaredy pants or lazy to use the road like every other responsible cyclist who has a brain.

In 26 years of policing I have never issued a FPN for cycling on the pavement, having read some of the moronic responses on here and the predictable plod insults, I'm sure there's a first time. Just like a driver's attitude will get them away with a bollocking, a cyclist's anti attitude as displayed by some on here would certainly ensure they get the FPN.

I'm off now to cycle to work on the road but I might just jump onto the pavement if I see a rapist or there's a massive 100 yd queue of traffic blocking my way and I don't feel like getting off and walking..

I get you are also one of the Feds that try to arrest people for smoking a joint, without having anything on their personal.

Reading through this thread and I can fairly say you are a nitwit, and thank goodness I don't live Inyour town. Black and white policing does nothing but cause problems.

You are smoking waaaay too much mate, your heads in the wrong country

Whooosh!

Don't smoke myself, but I remember one of my friends 'getting nicked' for smoking a joint, and once the copper realised the most he can do is issue a warning he just dropped it.

kieranb

nothing to do with the cycling on the pavement debate (when I was in Japan it didn't seem to cause any issues in the big cities but then people didn't seem in as much of a rush either and seemed more tolerant of each other) but something philthy3 said reminded me of a TV program the other week or so about people who were obsessed with cleaning up dog poo, part of the program showed a local residents meeting with 2 very bored police officers in attendance. I felt so sorry for them, I guess not what they had imagined when joining up. I couldn't believe it was one of the major concerns/issues raised by 'the public'.

goonz

Totally acceptable that is until you get stopped and issued a ticket by the rozzers.