Giant TCR Adavmced Frame

Nevereverland
Nevereverland Posts: 44
edited April 2011 in Road buying advice
Hi,

I'm looking at getting a Giant TCR Advanced (2010), and have seen it in the flesh. Its decent looking, but is very comfortable. Just looking at the pictures online, in some pice it looks like the top tube is extremely sloped (pic 1 & 2), and in some, it doesnt look as bad (3 & 4).

Am I imagining this?

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Comments

  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    It definitely slopes. Not that you can tell when you ride it.
  • I think he is asking if the top tube slopes at different angles on the same types of frames, or if the angle is always the same.

    I don't personally have experience with these frames, but I would assume that for a particular size frame the slope angle should always be the same. It is probably just the angles of the pictures you are finding and other differences in the bike setups that makes it appear they have different angles to the slopes.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    It slopes more on the smaller frames. Pictures 3 and 4 are larger sizes.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Have you ridden one? You claim it's very comfortable but do you know that? I suggest you do before purchase ... every frame is different and feels different of course.
  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    In the bottom picture, the camera isn't level with the bike - you can see more of the rear wheel rim than the front.

    In short - look up the geometries for the different sizes on the Giant website - but realistically, the angle of the top tubes should be pretty similar across all the sizes.
    Cannondale Synapse 105, Giant Defy 3, Giant Omnium, Giant Trance X2, EMC R1.0, Ridgeback Platinum, On One Il Pompino...
  • I would be taking a Medium sized frame. My LBS only has a M/L frame which is too big for me. I have tried a Medium frame in the TCR Composite, and that was very comfortable and a very nice fit. Its now a question of the TCR or a Wilier Izoard. Looking at the pictures, that slope looks very extreme in pic 1 especially, and would nearly put me off. I didnt notice it when checking out the M/L, but maybe its bigger in the medium frame
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I've not ridden the latest TCR but my CF TCR of a few years ago is very comfortable. With the same kit as my 653 bike had on - it really soaked up the vibrations from grids and metalwork in the road.

    By contrast my alu TCR is quite a bit harsher.
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    inseine wrote:
    It slopes more on the smaller frames. Pictures 3 and 4 are larger sizes.

    +1

    I have one (M/L) and it's excellent. I'd prefer a non-aero seatpost so I could tweak the comfort by using different posts but other than that it's great.
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • Just looking at it now, the front wheel of the 1st one looks a bit closer to the camera, which would obviously make the tube look more slanted. Or am I seeing things?

    Other than the pics, has anyone else noticed that the small/medium frames are a lot more sloped? I would have thought that all geometries would have been identical no matter the size
  • foggymike
    foggymike Posts: 862
    Smaller frames slope more, bigger frames less. On a medium the TT points towards the top of the tyre. Smaller frames point down more as they join a shorter seat tube so they have to point down more!
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    One technique is to listen when people post replies, or just completely ignore them :wink:
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    ah but is he listening to your advice inseine... :wink:
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    Clearly not! It wasn't even advise, but an answer to the question. You don't buy a compact frame if you think a sloping top tube looks 'bad', and it slopes more on the M than the M/L he tried.