Cycling with a bin bag on

smv

Hi All

Im new to mountain biking i am just looking to lose a bit of weight and build some strength up before going on longer rides. Do you think riding with a big bag underneath my bike gear will help me lose some much needed weight. Or am I wasting my time. I have started by doing 6-7 miles per night.

concorde

Lol. Bin bags dont work. They make you sweat more. So you lose water weight and become dehydrated. That's it! Dont lose any fat. 6-7 miles isnt very far either.

smv

ha ha thanks ,,,friggin is for me lol

Matt the Tester

Concorde wrote:

Lol. Bin bags dont work. They make you sweat more. So you lose water weight and become dehydrated. That's it! Dont lose any fat. 6-7 miles isnt very far either.

and thats putting it nicely i assume? :shock:

smv

only had the bike 5 days giz a chance will ye

Anonymous

smv wrote:

only had the bike 5 days giz a chance will ye

I dunno, I think he's right. I mean 6-7 miles is -1 mile. That's one mile LESS of excercise than you'd done before getting on the bike

Keep it up, man, it'll get easier in time. Unfortunately, there's no real healthy shortcuts to losing weight.

mak3m

Lol it will come

Push up your speed lil by lil, take on a route with a bit of climbing and your legs will get stronger each ride

Then the distance will come

Fatty like me can do 15 mile maintenance rides few times a week then a couple of big rides 30-50 miles time permitting

If I can do it anyone can, just got to build up, if you haven't done much cycling before you are using whole new muscle groups so let them get used to it then punish them :P

wander wheels

Forget the bin bag try using clingwrap

smv

wander wheels wrote:

Forget the bin bag try using clingwrap

Now your getting kinky ha ha

mak3m

wander wheels wrote:

Forget the bin bag try using clingwrap

That only works with mars bars man !!!!

concorde

Apologies I did not mean it to sounds the way it did. Keep at it. You've only just started like you say. Don't bother with the bin bag though, especially not when it's warm. You'll end up having a clutcher!

Atz

People have died from exercising with bin bags or similar on because they think they're losing weight. Do NOT do it under any circumstances.

Briggo

Bin bag covering the head/face, now thats a way of losing weight, guaranteed.

paulbox

Don't just rely on your bathroom scales, you will be building muscle in your legs at the same time as losing fat which will make it seem like you're not losing weight.

slackin101

PaulBox wrote:

Don't just rely on your bathroom scales, you will be building muscle in your legs at the same time as losing fat which will make it seem like you're not losing weight.

Yep, I injured my knee a couple of months back and wasn't able to do anything at all for almost eight weeks. In the meantime I gorged on fast food and biscuits to keep me sane. Weighed myself before doing any exercise again and I had lost four pounds... all turned from muscle into fat presumably.

The weight gain will come now that I have started getting out on the bike again.

concorde

slackin101 wrote:

PaulBox wrote:

Don't just rely on your bathroom scales, you will be building muscle in your legs at the same time as losing fat which will make it seem like you're not losing weight.

Yep, I injured my knee a couple of months back and wasn't able to do anything at all for almost eight weeks. In the meantime I gorged on fast food and biscuits to keep me sane. Weighed myself before doing any exercise again and I had lost four pounds... all turned from muscle into fat presumably.

The weight gain will come now that I have started getting out on the bike again.

Physiologically impossible to turn muscle straight in to fat. Don't get confused.

mak3m

Concorde wrote:

slackin101 wrote:

PaulBox wrote:

Don't just rely on your bathroom scales, you will be building muscle in your legs at the same time as losing fat which will make it seem like you're not losing weight.

Yep, I injured my knee a couple of months back and wasn't able to do anything at all for almost eight weeks. In the meantime I gorged on fast food and biscuits to keep me sane. Weighed myself before doing any exercise again and I had lost four pounds... all turned from muscle into fat presumably.

The weight gain will come now that I have started getting out on the bike again.

Physiologically impossible to turn muscle straight in to fat. Don't get confused.

no but muscle wastage can be fairly rapid with a sudden cessation of exercise

Stupidboypike

Cut the carbs out.

Weight loss guaranteed.

tarquin_foxglove

mak3m wrote:

Concorde wrote:

I injured my knee a couple of months back and wasn't able to do anything at all for almost eight weeks. In the meantime I gorged on fast food and biscuits to keep me sane. Weighed myself before doing any exercise again and I had lost four pounds...

no but muscle wastage can be fairly rapid with a sudden cessation of exercise

I understand (but I'm willing to be corrected as it is a hazy memory of something I was told in the pub) that following a regular pattern of exercise, muscles will store glycogen within them, so they have ready supply of energy for when you start exercising. This adds weight & bulk to the muscle.

When you cease regular exercise, the body uses the glycogen stored in the muscles but doesn't fully replace them. This reduces the weight & bulk of the muscle, giving the impression of rapid wastage of muscle but it isn't, your peak effort remains the same but your body would have to use glycogen stored elsewhere in the body (liver) which may shorten endurance.

It's in the weeks after that, that the actual muscles start to reduce and so peak effort is reduced.

Feel free to correct my errors...

cooldad

Muscles do store glycogen, and well conditioned muscles will store more than those of us flabby types, but about the max following carbo loading would be around 750g, around twice the level for 'normal' people, but not enough to make any significant difference to bulk, as it is stored within the cells.
Interesting article on carbo loading and water retention here.

http://www.marathontraining.com/articles/art_39th.htm

cee

the binbag weight loss thing must have come from somewhere...

my suspicion is boxers skipping with bin bags on.

This is a very short term technique for when athletes in sports with weight categories, find themselves over the limit before the weigh in.

they lose enough liquid to weigh in under the limit but then replace it with liquid straight after.

It is not a weight loss technique...it is a temporary way of reducing your weight.....remember, a litre of water weighs a kilo.

concorde

Muscle wastes after about two weeks of cessation of training I used to feel. Obviously it's gradual, not just after two weeks it suddenly drops a bit.

The bag thing is as said above for water loss. Nothing more.

Ransaka

Stupidboypike wrote:

Cut the carbs out.

Weight loss guaranteed.

No carbs and mountain biking? Not a good mix I'd say.

slackin101

Concorde wrote:

Physiologically impossible to turn muscle straight in to fat. Don't get confused.

Sorry I was being flippant about how to describe a reduction in muscle masking an increase in fat, in weight terms at least.

blablablacksheep

tbh the binbag system does work.

though a better bet is to buy a "sweatsuit" which you can pickup cheap from most training shop outlets.

Simular thing but isnt as ugly and "omfg i forgot to empty the rubbish out of it" :shock:

sweat loss does mean you lose weight though water loss, boxers have been doing this for ages but it ISNT a weight loss system for "fat people" but more a training tool to help boxers lose weight before a fight so they weigh in on target.

Dont cutt out carbs, its a very bad idea, better bet is kick the junk food slowly and start small then get bigger steps with the fitness

cooldad

Trying to lose water is a particularly stupid idea if you are planning any sort of exercise, and it is not a 'training' tool. Simply a way of getting under a weight limit. As CEE already pointed out.
Has no place in real life and could be potentially dangerous.

Atz

As several people pointed out, it's water loss, not any sort of fitness or fat loss exercise and is, I point out again, dangerous even for professional athletes. More than one NFL player has died because of this sort of thing. DO NOT DO IT as it is a TEMPORARY weight loss which all goes back on when you have a drink.

smv

Jibbed the bin bag and up my ride to 10 miles.Still feel good but gonna keep it at 7 miles a day for the next month then up it.Thanks for all the comments

concorde

That's the spirit smv. You'll be upping it before the end of the month is out I bet!