What Bike Chain? No U-locks

canada16

Hey

I have a u-lock, but I love my bike so much, and I wont be able to replace it, due to lots of parts including the frame being imported from canada and the usa.

I want to double lock the bike with a chain, been looking at this as it can be had for around 30.00.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... ock-14868/

I cant afford 100's on a lock, so something good and cheap.

jonnyc2420

cant really advise on whats best, but try to go for something that emits noise if tampered with to make it less convenient for scroates to have a go at........

nicklouse

what ever one that your insurance says you should use.

canada16

My insurance just says, make sure its locked.

My wife works with them, and there are no terms as far as locks go.

It with my contents insurance, and the bike is on for 3000.00, I just do no want my bike stolen, not even if they gave me 3000.00

Spent a lot of time looking for this bike, and would not be able to replace, like for like.

Went into Clas Ohlson and they have a nice heavy lock for 22.00. its hardened steel with a lock that weighs a ton

leaflite

For ultimate protection the almax chains seem to be rated the best. Pragmasis chains are apparently almost as good but half the price

Deputy Dawg

Try thislinky for a few good suggestions.

Northwind

8mm link on that Abus, you could just about chew through it, offers no protection against a thief with a clue (it'll take them less time to steal it than it'll take you to open the lock with the key). Considering what a low security standard Sold Secure Gold is, you don't want to buy anything that can't achieve it.

Torres

Buy a rat bike to commute on.
Leave your sunday best at home locked in a garage, or in the house.
A well prepared thief will break ANY lock on the market, multiple locks will slow them down, but at the end of that day if they want it bad enough they'll get it.

If it's a one of a kind, you're going to have to face facts that eventually it's gonna break, or it'll get stolen. You can reduce these risks by using the bike less frequently, but that's it.

MrChuck

Torres wrote:

Buy a rat bike to commute on.
Leave your sunday best at home locked in a garage, or in the house.
A well prepared thief will break ANY lock on the market, multiple locks will slow them down, but at the end of that day if they want it bad enough they'll get it.

If it's a one of a kind, you're going to have to face facts that eventually it's gonna break, or it'll get stolen. You can reduce these risks by using the bike less frequently, but that's it.

I'd have to agree with this- if the bike's that nice there's no need to be leaving it locked up anywhere.

Northwind

Torres wrote:

A well prepared thief will break ANY lock on the market, multiple locks will slow them down, but at the end of that day if they want it bad enough they'll get it.

that's true but a proper big chain- Almax, the big Pragmasis, that 16mm English Chain Co one if they still make it- will stop almost all thieves, you need hydraulic cutters or a grinder (eh, or a gas axe or plasma cutter but that's not likely) to get through those. Trouble is, by that point your chain's stronger than the bike

nicklouse

Northwind wrote:

Torres wrote:

A well prepared thief will break ANY lock on the market, multiple locks will slow them down, but at the end of that day if they want it bad enough they'll get it.

that's true but a proper big chain- Almax, the big Pragmasis, that 16mm English Chain Co one if they still make it- will stop almost all thieves, you need hydraulic cutters or a grinder (eh, or a gas axe or plasma cutter but that's not likely) to get through those. Trouble is, by that point your chain's stronger than the bike

and the theif will take what is easy to remove with a 5mm allen key,

cooldad

Just a point - nice bike but I've been following the frame from Canada saga onwards.
As it's not a bike readily available here, if it was stolen you would have to justify the cost to your insurers. From memory (and I'm the first to admit it's not what it used to be), your cost has been no where near £3,000.
If you are not going to get that if it's stolen, there's no point in paying more for insurance than you have to.

Northwind

nicklouse wrote:

and the theif will take what is easy to remove with a 5mm allen key,

Yup. So for that reason I've encased all my bikes in concrete.

d3matt

I was shown some padlocks the other day that emitted a loud siren when they were moved. They were on a chain securing a trailer. They were great things. Any attempt to tamper with the lock or chain set off the alarm. Great for bikes.

sniper68

canada16 wrote:

Hey

I cant afford 100's on a lock, so something good and cheap.

£30 lock on a £3k bike?Cheap is cheap for a reason.On a bike that expensive you want to be looking at motorbike locks and chains.I have mine double chained and locked to wall anchors.A good thief will still nick it if he wants.

supersonic

19mm anchor/mooring chain

Northwind

But then someone'll steal my yacht!

canada16

I know my bike is not really worth 3000.00, but if I were to buy everything again, get it all imported, duty taxes and getting the bike put together, it might be close.

Whats great with the wife working with the Insurance comp, I only pay 25.00 per month for building and contents.

I guess your right about them being able to take it if they want, but trust me if they brought a angle grinder into were I kept my bike, people would notice, I have my bike attached to a steel pole cemented into the ground, so thats secure.

I have a silver rated u-lock around the frame onto the post, but wanted to double lock just to take longer.

I will have a look at the sugestions.

ride_whenever

get a decent u-lock, if yours is only solid silver then it will be bugger all use.

supersonic

The sold secure ratings are nigh on useless anyway lol.

Northwind

Well they've got one purpose... Since even a chain made of toffee can get sold secure gold, you know that any lock that gets less than that is absolutely useless. I think bronze means it resisted harsh language and really angry stares for 1 minute or longer, whereas silver means it withstood at least one karate chop. Gold means they at least needed to open the toolbox.

d3matt

Very good Northwind.

supersonic

Halfords used to sell £5 locks when I worked there - when a customer brought them to the till or desk I would break them with the Park Cable cutters and ask if they still wanted to buy lol

ride_whenever

we do that with the cheap cables, just keep one under the counter and snip chunks off it to dissuade customers.

supersonic

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/19MM-LONG-LINK-MO ... 27af3b95c3

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16mm-Tested-Chain ... 483ecae113

Won't be as strong as the case hardened stuff, but bloody big chains, and the 19mm stuff is too big for most bolt croppers.

nickel

Out of interest do you want a lock for use at home or for when you're out and about on your bike? I mean an 19mm chain is great for home security but when it comes to riding to the shops it'll weigh an absolute ton. I use a kryptonite new york d lock with a masterlocks chain which together weigh over 5 kilos, its ok to ride the 3 mile roundtrip to uni but much more than that and it's going to be a serious pain in the ass.

supersonic

This is why I don't use an expensive bike if am locking up away from home.

Or I leave the lock at the destination if there regularly.

canada16

Yeh my work as a parking place, you need to buzz security to let you in.

But its still not 100% secure. the lock will be left in work and my bike attached to one of those bars that look like a upside U cemented to the ground.

Just want it, that bit harder to steal, will keep my u-lock, but just want a double lock.

There are lots of people in and out of the parking lot, so they would see someone trying to break a lock.

Might get a 16mm lock them, and buy a 20,.00 padlock or something, seems the cheapest way forward really, those other locks are like 100+ which I can afford really.

I know I should, but money all gone on the bike.. LOL

jayson

Afta having 2 bikes nicked from my work i invested in one of THESE and one of THESE in the vein hope it might dissuade any thieves from having a go.

Trust me Canada it may seem like alot of money to throw down but its infinitely cheaper than having to replace ur bike every yr or so thanks to thieves.

Of course if they want it bad enough they'll find a way but u can make life as difficult for them as u can. These days my bike is locked right outside the main entrance at work underneath receptions nose with the 2 locks and the front wheel taken out and brought upstairs with me.

I can only hope its enough.....