who is in the right
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maybe you were lucky and didnt get badly hurt.
no melodrama -statement of fact.
much later it mattered who was in the wrong -the police prosecuted the driver.
i did state in my post that it was already fairly obvious who was in the wrong in the hypothetical case.
i will be more than happy to stay well clear of you thanksDeath or Glory- Just another Story0 -
Of course it matters knowing if you're in the right. Imagine the chaos on the roads if eveyone drove, walked and cycled around without knowing if they we're in the right at all.
If you don't know if you're in the right, how would you know when you were doing wrong?Bianchi C2C - Ritte Bosberg - Cervelo R3
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mattshrops wrote:maybe you were lucky and didnt get badly hurt.
no melodrama -statement of fact.
much later it mattered who was in the wrong -the police prosecuted the driver.
i did state in my post that it was already fairly obvious who was in the wrong in the hypothetical case.
i will be more than happy to stay well clear of you thanks
It's not a statement of fact. It's melodrama. There's no guarantee that the cyclist would "WAKE UP IN HOSPITAL NOT THE CAR DRIVER". And it's important to know that you're not responsible for the smashed lights or scraped bodywork on the car.mattshrops wrote:IT DOESNT MATTER
:?mattshrops wrote:it mattered who was in the wrong0 -
you seem to have spectacularly missed the point. in at least one post i said that it is fairly obvious who was in the right. i do not put others or myself at risk by putting myself into a dangerous situation, thereby whining afterwards about who was at fault becomes unnessecary. so i dont tend to filter on the outside or on the inside of a line of cars, because i feel that would be putting myself in a dangerous situation.-therefore in that situation it doesnt matter.
sometimes no matter what you do harm comes looking for you and theres nothing you can do- in which case it is obviously useful to be able to prove who is at fault.
is that precise enough for you cos im getting boredDeath or Glory- Just another Story0 -
should have added the point of the initial post was its a mindset that is useful to have as the most vulnerable road user, thereby you are less likely to put yourself at risk.
sorry people i just sort of assumed you would understand that(its well known in motorcycle training)
but you know what they say about assuming....Death or Glory- Just another Story0 -
I completely agree that if you see someone doing something stupid you shouldn't think "I'm in the right so I'm going to keep going".
I overtook 3.5 miles of stationary traffic yesterday on the way to work. There was no way I was going to wait in line. I'd have never got to work! And when I got hit I wasn't putting anyone else in danger. I was write happily minding my own business when someone pulled out of a side road straight into me.
I think we're actually saying almost the same thing. the first priority should always be to avoid a collision. So lets just agree on that
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I dont tend to move up the inside or outside of stationary cars at lights or junctions. I stop behind the last car and follow it. As long as the speed is slow and i can keep up when moving i will not let another car in front by keeping close to the middle of my side of the road.
I dont see the point in riding to the front then holding up cars behind me when i could just let them move forward in front, i just wait like everyone else has to.0 -
+1. The most sensible advice on this topic.0
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lostboysaint wrote:It's the cars fault. It's the same as if you were filtering on a motorcycle. Driving without due car and attention or Driving without consideration for other road users.
+1 As a former motorcyclist, you must always expect the unexpected when it comes to cars/vans etc0
