any photoshoppers out there ?

northernneil
northernneil Posts: 1,549
edited March 2011 in The bottom bracket
I have an image of a stained glass window, which I would like to apply an effect whereby it is bright from the middle going outwards. i.e. as if it were illuminated from behind.

any ideas how I can do that ?

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  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Just a suggestion how about a graduated mask being applied?
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    I have an image of a stained glass window, which I would like to apply an effect whereby it is bright from the middle going outwards. i.e. as if it were illuminated from behind.

    any ideas how I can do that ?

    err, nope.

    But you didn't really expect a useful reply from me did you?

    Love n hugs

    DD
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  • Ollieda
    Ollieda Posts: 1,010
    Is there already a light source behind it in the right place? If so you should be able to just adjust the filters (brightness,saturation,hue....etc) until that light comes through more.

    Anything more technical than that and I wouldn't have a clue
  • I don't have photoshop but have paint.net, the poor man's open source version. That has a number of photo effects, such as lomography and vignette. I'm not 100% sure I understand the effect you're trying to get but perhaps lomography plus a general lightening might get a similar effect.

    This may be a useless idea, though. However, paint.net is free if you want to try it. It might waste some of your time but at least it's free.
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    edited March 2011
    You want to make the whole shot bright and then apply a vignette mask.

    In theory. I don't use Photoshop much

    Edit:- A quick try is this. Make the centre how you want it to end up. Then go to Filter > Correct Camera Distortion. In there, there is a Vignette slider. Move that to the left to darken the outside and play about to get the effect you want.

    It works on my Photoshop Elements any way. 8)
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  • daviesee wrote:
    You want to make the whole shot bright and then apply a vignette mask.

    In theory. I don't use Photoshop much

    Edit:- A quick try is this. Make the centre how you want it to end up. Then go to Filter > Correct Camera Distortion. In there, there is a Vignette slider. Move that to the left to darken the outside and play about to get the effect you want.

    It works on my Photoshop Elements any way. 8)

    Just fiddling around in paint.net, I just got what might be close to the desired effect by applying vignette, then brightness, then glow. Before and after....

    Chatres_Cathedral_stained_glass.jpg
    Chartres.png
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    Beautiful. Totally stunning that.

    Love n hugs

    DD
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  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    This what you're after?

    5519020215_6533e9f28a_o.jpg
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  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    woah! brilliant that!

    love n hugs

    DD
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    www.onemanandhisbike.co.uk
  • ctrlaltdel
    ctrlaltdel Posts: 114
    ^^ Try altering the 'centre' of the radial blur effect, so it's is not in its default middle of the screen position. Also vary its intensity across the image so that it's not quite as uniform, it'll make it look like the light is catching different densities of dust in the air.
  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    I'd like to establish exactly what effect the OP wants before going for a final image.

    It wasn't radial blur.
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  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    You might want to try (filter) "Render" - "Lighting effects" (Omni pattern) and "Lens Flare" - fading the effects after applying them. Also, the "Image/Adjustments/Levels" menu and re-establishing the black point, after the filters are applied, might help.
  • With a bit more colour?

    Chartres.jpg

    It's difficult to second guess what Neil might be after - I just googled ''stained glass'', grabbed an image (Chartres cathedral, apparently) and started playing around with it.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    How about this?
    Taken with a Canon EOS 5D, Canon EF50 f1.2 lens. ISO100 in RAW on Tripod with light diffuser.
    Processed on Photoshop using HDR.


    dsc_0157.jpg
  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    An example of the method I would use - the actual radius of omni-lighting and flare could be adjusted. I took this photo for the detail, and prefer it without effects. Anyone who has visited Iona will recognise it.
    Taken with a cheapo film SLR and scanned - long ago, before I could afford digital gear.

    ColmCillebef.jpg

    ColmCille.jpg
  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    ... It's difficult to second guess what Neil might be after - I just googled ''stained glass'', grabbed an image (Chartres cathedral, apparently) and started playing around with it.
    Ahhh.... I wondered where the image came from.

    Perhaps the OP could post a link to the image, then we'd have a better idea (or at least have a play about with it).
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  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    spot on chaps ... will post image here when back at work on monday, then when its done if its ok with you guys I will take all the credit and look amazing !
  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    spot on chaps ... will post image here when back at work on monday, then when its done if its ok with you guys I will take all the credit and look amazing !
    We'll be sure to copy in a stained glass c0ck or pair of breasts then! :D:wink:
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  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    I'd rather you didnt as its for work !

    but the effect is just as you guys have done, light and colour coming through the windows. This is the image https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/P0IYolyBQfzBohmYavx2fA?feat=directlink

    and your help is much appreciated !
  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    With a bit more colour?

    Chartres.jpg

    It's difficult to second guess what Neil might be after - I just googled ''stained glass'', grabbed an image (Chartres cathedral, apparently) and started playing around with it.

    thats perfect, the image as you can see is just dull and flat and this is exactly what we are after ...
  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    The glaziers have been in.....

    glass2b.jpg
  • Neil, the window seemed too solidly rectangular to use a vignette effect - that would have given it an oval/circular feel.

    This is a bit more saturated - accentuating yellow/gold - with a bit of glow added. Whilst fiddling around I appear to have somehow changed the size and squidged out the title, but hey, it's work in progress... On the right tracks?



    glass2%20jpg.jpg

    stained.png

    EDIT: bigger images here - http://deptfordmarmoset.blogspot.com/20 ... -hill.html
  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    I suggest that you guys take a trip to look at some real stained glass kirk windows.

    Saturation is probably not enough - and the effect of light through the window is more subtle in reality. It would be hard to reach a realistic effect with a white - or off-white background. The effect is always going to look painted rather than stained and illuminated from behind. It is going to look more like an illuminated manuscript - and the camera cannot capture the gold leaf well enough when attempting to reproduce the work of monks!

    Increasing the saturation looks pretty, however.

    Here's a window as it looks naturally - taken from the net:


    full_mary_window2.jpg
  • Crapaud
    Crapaud Posts: 2,483
    One thing that's not been asked yet is, what is the image being used for? It's important.

    If it's going on the web, it'll be ok at the size it is, if it's going to print it may be ok at same size. If it's much biiger it'll be shite. Also, Depford's second image is too saturated for print - those lovely greens and blues'll go flat and lose detail..
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  • northernneil
    northernneil Posts: 1,549
    Neil, the window seemed too solidly rectangular to use a vignette effect - that would have given it an oval/circular feel.

    This is a bit more saturated - accentuating yellow/gold - with a bit of glow added. Whilst fiddling around I appear to have somehow changed the size and squidged out the title, but hey, it's work in progress... On the right tracks?



    glass2%20jpg.jpg

    stained.png

    EDIT: bigger images here - http://deptfordmarmoset.blogspot.com/20 ... -hill.html

    wow - impressed dude !!!!

    cheers for all your help people