Guerciotti Steel frame

matt.rochfort
matt.rochfort Posts: 147
edited March 2011 in Road buying advice
Having upgraded a few bits and bobs on my race bike I seem to have most of the components to build up another bike apart from a crankset and rear der. I've been thinking about a classic steel frame and recently stumbled across the Guerciotti Record frame at PX for 299 - is it any good or too good to be true? Looks great but how does it ride? Not worried about weight as it would be used for flatish commuting duties and all day rides. Looks like if i invest about £500 I could have a lovely looking bike. Any views?

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  • ynyswen24
    ynyswen24 Posts: 703
    I say do it...
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    There's a lot to be said for the timeless quality of a sorted steel bike in comparison to some of the inflated carbon 'uglies' you see these days
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • appletrees
    appletrees Posts: 327
    I bought one - unfortunately when they were £499, but it's truly beautiful, a delight to ride etc etc... and I consider it to be money very well spent.

    You cannot possibly go wrong at that price.

    Buy one today.
  • appletrees
    appletrees Posts: 327
    Actually, I lied, I bought a G55, not a Record, but it's still great...and the Record looks lovely.

    Must read post properly before responding.
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Elio wrote:
    Buy it, you won't regret it!

    Is that really gold and pink? Very brave.
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  • tenor
    tenor Posts: 278
    Appletrees
    I am also considering the G55 - how id the quality of the frame (welding, etc) and how does it ribe?
    Were P-X helpful on sizing, etc?
  • Elio
    Elio Posts: 63
    Elio wrote:
    Buy it, you won't regret it!

    Is that really gold and pink? Very brave.

    Yes, that's really gold and pink :D

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16722390
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    appletrees wrote:
    I bought one - unfortunately when they were £499, but it's truly beautiful, a delight to ride etc etc... and I consider it to be money very well spent.

    You cannot possibly go wrong at that price.

    Buy one today.
    Did you happen the weigh the bare frame alone before you built it up? Trying to estimate if lugged steel frames are in the 1800-2000gr zone or are in fact a lot more. I have a '98 Lemond Zurich 853 tigged frame in a 57cm (60 C-T) which is 1750 grams (complete with a welded in drive side BB cup)
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Lugged steel bikes like that have been around for many, many years. Lots of people ride them even though they are not what you're "supposed" to be riding(i.e. carbon fiber).
    Absolutely nothing wrong with them and FWIW I think most of them look better than todays carbon offerings. At the very least you'll be riding something fairly unique and will probably get more more positve comments about it than if you rode one of todays "must have" carbon frames.
  • appletrees
    appletrees Posts: 327
    Ok - sizing - I know what I want, so had no input from PX at all...ride quality - only done a couple of test rides, v stiff, in a nice way, corners beautifully, looks the biz. I went for red.

    I can't recall the exact weight, mine's 56cm, but it was def under 1600 grams. I recall being surprised how light it was - the difference between it and the Planet X Pro carbon SL it replaced was not nearly as marked as I expected it to be.

    I have to say that the PX website (which may now have been updated) was incorrect re the headset: the cups are built into the frame, so it's just an FSA orbit bearing IIRC - 45 degree external - you can use 45/45 or 45/36, doesn't matter, but it's italian size, so 41.8mm (Campag use this size in their aheadsets), not the normal 41mm. Italian BB, 27.2 seatpost. And don't forget to buy an old fashioned seat pin bolt.


    Hope this helps,

    Appletrees
  • appletrees
    appletrees Posts: 327
    Weld quality is immaculate, to answer the final question.

    And overall, with pretty standard kit on it - new ultegra, force chainset, p/x hubs on open pro's, it's under 17lbs...
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    One problem with the Guerciotti range on Planet-X's website is that you're spoilt for choice. Guerciotti seem to do so many frames it's hard to know which one to pick!

    If I didn't already have a steel bike on the fleet I'd be very tempted by the Record. Actually I'm tempted anyway! But it'd be nicer if it had mudguard fixings (which I suspect means I'm missing the point).

    Are their carbon frames actually made in Italy or are the far east in origin?
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  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,853
    unixnerd wrote:

    Are their carbon frames actually made in Italy or are the far east in origin?

    Far East
  • ynyswen24
    ynyswen24 Posts: 703
    Careful everyone, this might turn into the most unanaimouslly positive thread yet seen...

    but you should still buy it