Omloop Het Nieuwsblad *spoilers*

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  • What an odd sprint.
    Flecha either in the wrong gear or dead on his feet.
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    That's what, the 10th win for Rabo this season so far?

    Thought Langeveld seemed a little overconfident rolling past Flecha at the start of the sprint.
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  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    Nice touch by Flecha to shake hands...
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    That was really, really great!
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  • bigpikle
    bigpikle Posts: 1,690
    what a finish - impressive start to the year!
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  • Well done by Langeveld.

    He is the better sprinter, but I initially thought he had gone too early.
  • curium
    curium Posts: 815
    Don't think anyone got him in the PTP, plenty for Flecha though
  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    Kuurne Brussels Kuurne tomorrow! :D
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  • Were any teams using radios? Is this race going to be nullified?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    kooky45 wrote:
    Were any teams using radios? Is this race going to be nullified?

    No, the commissaires threatened to walk out if teams used radios, and without commissaires the race would have had no insurance. So the teams caved in.
  • shakey88
    shakey88 Posts: 289
    Radios or not,that was some awesome racing,and a great start to the classics season.
    Wish i could ride my bike like that!
  • pottssteve wrote:
    Kuurne Brussels Kuurne tomorrow! :D

    Same starters as yesterday (no surprise there)::

    http://www.kuurne-brussel-kuurne.be/KBK/Deelnemers.pdf

    And the start is live on cycling.tv from 11:00
  • csp
    csp Posts: 777
    If there was a PTP K-B-K I'd have Roger Kluge.
  • csp wrote:
    If there was a PTP K-B-K I'd have Roger Kluge.

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  • Attacks:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tRTBqJO4XE
    Last 6km link on side
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  • Like this:
    2011_omloop_het_nieuwsblad_poster.jpg
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  • Btw he attacked a similar distance out to the one and only Gilbert.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Thanks all, hadn't seen the result and read the thread from the start. It gave all the tension of watching live! Sounds like a great race and another sign that the lack of radios is producing more exciting racing perhaps? Looks like proper Spring Classics conditions too.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    There's always a little faint disapointment when the big favourites get thrown out of the running for a small tactical error.

    I secretly always hope for a big gun showdown.

    As much as I like a man against man race, it does leave few tactical options on the table.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    There's always a little faint disapointment when the big favourites get thrown out of the running for a small tactical error.

    I secretly always hope for a big gun showdown.

    I'm not sure that what we got wasn't a big gun showdown. Flecha has been a big gun in de Omloop for a while, and this might well have been Langeveld's break-through into these ranks.

    I'm not 100% convinced it was just a tactical error - last year Gilbert was left for dead by Flecha, and this year he told Roelandts halfway he could ride for himself; Boonen's riding and talking is increasingly that of someone unsure how to keep underwriting his popularity with actual results in the coming years. Did they send Roelandts and Terpstra with Flecha as mistaken tactical move, or because they weren't strong enough themselves?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    FJS wrote:
    There's always a little faint disapointment when the big favourites get thrown out of the running for a small tactical error.

    I secretly always hope for a big gun showdown.

    I'm not sure that what we got wasn't a big gun showdown. Flecha has been a big gun in de Omloop for a while, and this might well have been Langeveld's break-through into these ranks.

    I'm not 100% convinced it was just a tactical error - last year Gilbert was left for dead by Flecha, and this year he told Roelandts halfway he could ride for himself; Boonen's riding and talking is increasingly that of someone unsure how to keep underwriting his popularity with actual results in the coming years. Did they send Roelandts and Terpstra with Flecha as mistaken tactical move, or because they weren't strong enough themselves?

    Possibly. If Langeveld was a proper favourite no-one would have let him go at 50km or whatever it was.

    I think in this particular case, they sent them up them at 50km to go or whatever it is because it's always advantageous for the team to be represented without their lead man expending too mcuh energy in the last 50km or so. It's pretty standard. In this instance, the break was so well represented team wise that there wasn't engguh impetus behind to chase.

    I do think though, that some tier 2 riders might be aiming to peak earlier to get a chance to win these races, rather than an anonymous top 10 in de Ronde.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    I think in this particular case, they sent them up them at 50km to go or whatever it is because it's always advantageous for the team to be represented without their lead man expending too mcuh energy in the last 50km or so. It's pretty standard.
    Sure, but not if it's another big favorite who attacks (see Boonen and Cancellara testing each other in Paris-Roubaix last year from who knows how far out), and Flecha definitely was a favorite, after last years and after impressive riding in Oman/Qatar.
    I do think though, that some tier 2 riders might be aiming to peak earlier to get a chance to win these races, rather than an anonymous top 10 in de Ronde.
    Perhaps, but I'm not sure that's true for either Flecha or Langeveld, who are more likely to be their team's leaders later on in April. It migth be true for someone like Roelandts, Steegmans, De Gendt or Keukeleire who need a Flemish semi-classic break-through win; but if they peaked, it didn't really show this weekend
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    FJS wrote:
    I think in this particular case, they sent them up them at 50km to go or whatever it is because it's always advantageous for the team to be represented without their lead man expending too mcuh energy in the last 50km or so. It's pretty standard.
    Sure, but not if it's another big favorite who attacks (see Boonen and Cancellara testing each other in Paris-Roubaix last year from who knows how far out), and Flecha definitely was a favorite, after last years and after impressive riding in Oman/Qatar.
    I do think though, that some tier 2 riders might be aiming to peak earlier to get a chance to win these races, rather than an anonymous top 10 in de Ronde.
    Perhaps, but I'm not sure that's true for either Flecha or Langeveld, who are more likely to be their team's leaders later on in April. It migth be true for someone like Roelandts, Steegmans, De Gendt or Keukeleire who need a Flemish semi-classic break-through win; but if they peaked, it didn't really show this weekend

    I think it's true for Flecha, and I think it was true for Gilbert when he was younger.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    I think it's true for Flecha, and I think it was true for Gilbert when he was younger.
    hmm, perhaps. Last year definitely, but this year? He already has a win in de Omloop, and he'll still be Sky's main man in Roubaix.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    FJS wrote:
    I think it's true for Flecha, and I think it was true for Gilbert when he was younger.
    hmm, perhaps. Last year definitely, but this year? He already has a win in de Omloop, and he'll still be Sky's main man in Roubaix.

    I'm not convinced you can put in a performance like Flecha did in Omloop and be 100% for Roubaix.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549

    I'm not convinced you can put in a performance like Flecha did in Omloop and be 100% for Roubaix.

    What about Flecha last year? He won the Omloop and was third in Roubaix. He'd have been second if he'd used his head and dropped Hushovd (who was definitely suffering).
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    andyp wrote:

    I'm not convinced you can put in a performance like Flecha did in Omloop and be 100% for Roubaix.

    What about Flecha last year? He won the Omloop and was third in Roubaix. He'd have been second if he'd used his head and dropped Hushovd (who was definitely suffering).

    Must confess - I didn't notice his performance. I'd imagine the 3rd was mainly due to a lot of wheel sucking and picking the right move.

    Then again, maybe i'm being teleological.