UST Tyres?? Confused!!!

Nealmason1986

Hi, Hope some of you knowledgeable people can help me out!

I have bought a bike second hand from this website.

The bike has ultegra tubeless wheels on it. However at the moment it has kenda wheels and inner tube.

Went for my first ride on the bike and i popped the rear inner tube after 2 bends!

Now i am not really the type of person who has the pacience to stop and change a inner tube every time i ride the bike.

therefor i need some tubeless wheels

problem is i belive i need whats called UST (ultimate sidewall technology?)
tyres for this particular wheel otherwise i need to use tyre sealent.

now i have a few questions.

1) looked on wiggle, evans etc and i cant seem to find road wheels (700x23c) with UST. but there are MTB wheels with UST.

2) if i bought bog standard tubeless tyres how do u use tyre sealent? is there any good videos online? does it go inside the tyre or into the rim?

3) if i was to get non UST tyers what are the best tyres to get which are not to expensive.

4) when i look at some of the pictures some of the tyres look like they have stuff inbetween the rubber to help prevent puncture. and i better shelling out and getting these or sticking to cheaper tyers and putting some protective seal inside the tyre

this bike stuff is a whole new world to me and i just get confused.

hope someone can give me some great help because every time i am ready to go out for a ride i stumble upon a new problem!

Thanks

Nealmason1986

Im thinking this is making no sense to people. im so confused! i want to ride my bike

Nealmason1986

also if i buy tyres like this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/vittoria-corsa- ... ular-tyre/

do they come as a pair or individual

so is it 47 quid for a pair for nearly 100?

danowat

I know nothing about tubeless, however, those you linked to are tubulars, which have to be glued/taped to a tubular rim, so I think they are different from tubeless.

And yeah, they are nearly £100 a pair, I know, I have them on my TT bike!!

mattshrops

why dont you just buy some puncture resistant tyres and new tubes. back in november i started suffering lots of flats and after 3 in one ride i bought continental ultra gatorskins- whisper it but havent had a you-know-what since. been out at least 3 times a week if temps above 2 degrees(so only missed 3-4 weeks) seems easiest way to me
expect to pay £40+ ish for a pair.

furrag

So when you puncture miles from home, what will you do?

nakita222

[quote="Nealmason1986"
1) looked on wiggle, evans etc and i cant seem to find road wheels (700x23c) with UST. but there are MTB wheels with UST.

2) if i bought bog standard tubeless tyres how do u use tyre sealent? is there any good videos online? does it go inside the tyre or into the rim?

3) if i was to get non UST tyers what are the best tyres to get which are not to expensive.

4) when i look at tsome fo the pictures some of the tyres look like they have stuff inbetween the rubber to help prevent puncture. and i better shelling out and getting these or sticking to cheaper tyers and putting some protective seal inside the tyre

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First of all you spelt tyres wrong
Your problem was most probably a pinch flat, Human Error.
Clinchers are much better for training than tubs, and if you buy a good sense of puncture proof tyres, and correctly insert the innertube you can get 3000+ of miles out of good tyres.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/hutchinson-atom ... n=products

These tyres are UST Tubeless, and the price is for one tyre.
Another reason to not use tubulars for training.

Tyre Sealent is injected into the valve like a pump, and a bit like a CO2 cannister you push and it fills the tyre.

The Kevlar is what is between the rubber and the tyre making it puncture proof, cheaper tyres are cheaper for a reason, and you will be spending a lot more on tires, glue etc.

The Moral of the story, which is a bit messed up is stick with clinchers

ballspondroad

Here's a nice short history of tubeless road bike tyres:-

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/w ... yres-15295

and if you type UST or tubeless into google or youtube you'll turn up lots of other stuff.

mattshrops

TBH i think people are starting to give you info you dont need.

buy some puncture resistant tyres= job done( new tubes cos you dont know how old the ones on your bike are)

Nealmason1986

right guys plenty of reading to be done there!

sorry about the spelling. I am dyslexic and i just couldnt decide which way round it went. Sorted now though.

So basically if i run UST tubeless i dont need sealant or glue do i because i have tubeless wheels which support UST.

Can anyone recommend any good puncture proof tube tyres because i will give them a go with new inner tubes if i can find some good ones. also i got confused with inner tube size because the ones in say 700/18 x 23c. does this basically mean i need 700x23c tyres and forget the 18 number?

mattshrops

continental ultra gatorskins.

probably read 18-23>to fit the range of 18 to 23 tyres

Nealmason1986

thanks for that. i think i will get the continentals then!

what are the best inner tubes to put with them? mine were kenda and they were rubbish

Nealmason1986

also another question.

i ordered these inner tubes

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-qua ... nner-tube/

now i ordered the

700x18-25

i need 700x23c

is this right seeing as 23 is between 18-25??? i just confused to if this is right or not

after this i am sorted

John.T

Those are fine. They cover the range from 18mm to 25mm tyres. Nearly all of us will be using these.
While tubeless tyres are now common in MTB circles they have not done so well for road bikes due to problems with sealant working well at higher pressures, heavier tyres, more rolling resistance and higher cost. Not all suffer all these but usually at least one. In a few years time this may all change but until then most of us will be staying with tubes. Punctures are only really a problem in winter and hedge cutting time. Often go right through a summer without any.

keef66

Don't worry about the spelling, people know what you mean.

And rather amusingly the same poster who mentioned it then went on to spell tyre wrongly in their own post

"and you will be spending a lot more on tires, glue etc"

Dennis spells it that way all the time.

Decent tyres and tubes is the way to go.

Nealmason1986

Thanks very much for all the advice guys! Nice to know there is a forum i can use with good people on!

cant wait for them to come now so i can get back on it.

Anyone know of any good videos of how to fit innner tube and tyre properly!

thanks

keef66

Google for bicycletutor videos or look on the Park Tools website

Spa Cycles has a video showing how to fit a particularly obstinate Marathon Plus tyre. If you can get one of those on, you can fit anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0 ... r_embedded

Nealmason1986

thank you very much!