Castrating dogs

jim453
jim453 Posts: 1,360
edited February 2011 in The bottom bracket
What's the best age for this to happen to a pet dog?

Or is it best not to bother?

Thoughts?

Comments

  • Bunneh
    Bunneh Posts: 1,329
    It's best to get it done pretty early, consult your vet on when's the best age. It's worth doing to prevent behavioral problems, unwanted pups, testicular cancer and other associated ilnesses. If you go away most dog shelters won't take a none chopped dog either. The RSPCA offer a discount for people on low incomes, although proof of benefits is required.

    http://www.doglistener.co.uk/medical/neuter.shtml

    A friend of mine used to breed Staffies (doesn't every bugger now?), she was very aggressive, until they had her neutered. She's a lovely pet now, very affectionate and doesn't try to eat her owners' faces.
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    jim453 wrote:
    What's the best age for this to happen to a pet dog?

    Or is it best not to bother?

    Thoughts?

    the same time you should do blokes imho

    love n hugs

    DD
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  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    Oh...faces.. silly me. :shock:
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Bunneh wrote:
    A friend of mine used to breed Staffies (doesn't every bugger now?), she was very aggressive, until they had her neutered. .

    You had your friend neutered cos she was agressive?

    Jeebus, they're tough up your way.
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  • Flasheart
    Flasheart Posts: 1,278
    Keeps the bitches in check ya know :wink:
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  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    DIESELDOG wrote:
    the same time you should do blokes imho

    I once got a special offer via e-mail - I could be castrated by a beautiful Brazilian dominatrix for a mere $5000. If you feel so strongly about it, why not set up in business yourself?
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    johnfinch wrote:
    DIESELDOG wrote:
    the same time you should do blokes imho

    I once got a special offer via e-mail - I could be castrated by a beautiful Brazilian dominatrix for a mere $5000. If you feel so strongly about it, why not set up in business yourself?

    $5000. A snip.
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    johnfinch wrote:
    DIESELDOG wrote:
    the same time you should do blokes imho

    I once got a special offer via e-mail - I could be castrated by a beautiful Brazilian dominatrix for a mere $5000. If you feel so strongly about it, why not set up in business yourself?

    I'm not Brazilian...

    Love n hugs

    DD
    Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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  • kev77
    kev77 Posts: 433
    6 Months

    I had my dobermann done, best thing you can do unless your planning to stud it.

    The testosterone dissapears after another 6 months and then they become calm.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    Personally I wouldn't unless there was a particular problem that castrating would address. It can make a dog more aggressive - certainly in a nervous or cautious dog castrating can increase fear aggression.

    If you are going to get your dog done then at least wait until physical maturity - how long that takes depends on the breed. If you neuter early it affects the physical development of the dog. Imo 6 months is way too early.

    Dogs generally calm down anyway so plenty of people who think castrating calmed their hyper pup down are just witnessing what age would have done. If people don't want lively or dominant dogs though perhaps they should have chosen a different breed.

    Talking of Staffies - I had my last one put to sleep just before Christmas - he was nearly 16 and not neutered - soft as anything.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • jim453
    jim453 Posts: 1,360
    Personally I wouldn't unless there was a particular problem that castrating would address. It can make a dog more aggressive - certainly in a nervous or cautious dog castrating can increase fear aggression.

    If you are going to get your dog done then at least wait until physical maturity - how long that takes depends on the breed. If you neuter early it affects the physical development of the dog. Imo 6 months is way too early.

    Dogs generally calm down anyway so plenty of people who think castrating calmed their hyper pup down are just witnessing what age would have done. If people don't want lively or dominant dogs though perhaps they should have chosen a different breed.

    Talking of Staffies - I had my last one put to sleep just before Christmas - he was nearly 16 and not neutered - soft as anything.

    This is pretty much what I think, and would like to do.

    However, why do vets so strongly recommend having it done at 6 months?
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    jim453 wrote:
    This is pretty much what I think, and would like to do.

    However, why do vets so strongly recommend having it done at 6 months?

    Well it's their business and they get paid for it - same as they do for annual vaccinations - something the vets association in the USA now say are not necessary or even beneficial yet almost all UK vets will push you towards having them done. I take the attitude I am paying vets for a service and if they try and push their views on me I just tell them I'm paying them so I'll make the decisions thanks.

    Don't get me wrong castrating a dog does have benefits - but it also has disadvantages. Certain behavioural issues are improved by castration - some are made worse - but at 6 months you can't really tell for sure what the character your dog is going to have - it's educated guesswork at best.

    Same with health - there are benefits and disadvantages - it's certainly not clear cut.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • kev77
    kev77 Posts: 433
    Go to wikipedia and look it up.

    At the end of the day it is your decision, we have never experienced any problems with our boxers or dobermanns pre. Also there is a slight difference in a 7 stone dog feeling frisky to one that is say a staffordshire bull terrier. We have big dogs ( working ) because that is our prference and yes they have all been very obedient and very controllable.

    Granted, go and speak to your vet about the pro's and con's and take there advice.
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    oh the temptation to say you're all talking a complete load of b*llocks :lol:

    The only time i've had a dog "done" was to curb it's agression, I have 2 "entiire" terriers and neither cause a problem.

    It's down to individual circumstances that no one except the OP can judge on nor make a call on a dogs bits.

    Just my twopenneth.

    Love n hugs

    DD
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  • Ollieda
    Ollieda Posts: 1,010
    My family has been breading dogs and taking in abandoned dogs for a long time.

    For males we tend to get them done early as possible, depends on the bread of the dog but 6 months is fine for some dogs.

    For females we get them done after their first "season" i.e. after they have been through heat the first time.

    As for aggression, having the snip might help or not help some dogs but from my experience the vast majority of behavioural issues with dogs is due to how the dog is trained.

    Seening as people have been mentioning staffies....it's one bread that shows the vast difference that training can have on a dog, they can be trained easily to be extremely aggresive dogs (hence being used for dog fighting), likewise they can be trained to be some of the most homely and loving dogs.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,161
    Ollieda wrote:
    My family has been breading dogs and taking in abandoned dogs for a long time.

    Breaded - like Kentucky Fried. Neither tastes like chicken.
  • bigbaz
    bigbaz Posts: 538
    I am a vet & have been in small animal practice for nearly 40 years,but this is one of those issues where opinions within the profession vary,but you can have my opinion if you like.First of all,forget comparisons with spaying bitches.There are many health benefits from spaying bitches,which are well-documented and not disputed,but the same does not go for castration.Testicular cancer is obviously prevented,since they are removed,but testicular cancer in dogs is NOT like ithe situation in man.Testicular tumours in dogs fall into 3 main types,and all are rarely malignant.One type,the Sertoli Cell tumour can produce oestrogen resulting in a dog attractive to other male dogs but this can be treated by removing the affected testicle.Testicular tumours are usually only seen in old dogs.
    The prostate issue is more complicated.Benign prostate enlargement is common in old dogs and the incidence is definitely reduced in castrated dogs,but prostate cancer,which isn't common in dogs is actually more common in castrated males than entire males.If I see prostate trouble in a castrated dog it is nearly always a very serious issue.
    The behavioural effects of castration are contentious,even amongst vets and behaviourists there are widely varying opinions.For what it's worth,my advice to my clients is that if the dog has behavioral problems related to testosterone,eg. territory marking in the home,mounting children etc. then consider temporary chemical castration using a testosterone antagonist and see what the results are.This can be done by an injection which temporarily inhibits testosterone.If the results are good then castration can then be considered as a permanent solution.Too many people think that castration is the answer to all behavioral problems,and this is just not the case.Most well-socialised and disciplined dogs do not need to be castrated,in my opinion.Hope that helps.
  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    Right now! Every single bl***dy one of them!
  • Poor doggies :shock: