Contador cleared of cheating
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For one I'm happy.
I always said that if Contador was exposed as a drugs cheat I would stop watching bike-racing. Why? What's the point, you couldn't ever watch or get behind a athlete without the constant doubt that your admiration in their feats wasn't under false pretence.
I felt this way with Ricco when he won the stage in the Tour. His climb was amazing and the next day I was so hyped, couldn't wait to ride my bike up Balham hill ala Cobra. Day later I found he was a drugs cheat and so my enthusiasm drained.
But no! Contador is back and I for one, who likes him and think he is uber, am happy!
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I always said that if Contador was exposed as a drugs cheat I would stop watching bike-racing. Why? What's the point, you couldn't ever watch or get behind a athlete without the constant doubt that your admiration in their feats wasn't under false pretence.
I felt this way with Ricco when he won the stage in the Tour. His climb was amazing and the next day I was so hyped, couldn't wait to ride my bike up Balham hill ala Cobra. Day later I found he was a drugs cheat and so my enthusiasm drained.
But no! Contador is back and I for one, who likes him and think he is uber, am happy!
Discuss
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A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
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You live in cuckoo land if you think he's clean.#
WADA will appeal and he'll get 2 years I hope.
Anyway 190 odd pages in the Road, Pro Race section on this.0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:For one I'm happy.
I always said that if Contador was exposed as a drugs cheat I would stop watching bike-racing.
He has been exposed as a drugs cheat - you think his technicality based exoneration means he's clean?
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I don't know enough about the whole case to comment on specifics, but from a laymans point of view and reading between the lines of how it's being reported in the press, it seems to be the cyclists equivilent of getting off on a technicality. Not proven rather than not guilty?
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If it had been anyone other than Contador, the ban would most likely have stood.0
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DonDaddyD wrote:For one I'm happy.
I always said that if Contador was exposed as a drugs cheat I would stop watching bike-racing. Why? What's the point, you couldn't ever watch or get behind a athlete without the constant doubt that your admiration in their feats wasn't under false pretence.
I felt this way with Ricco when he won the stage in the Tour. His climb was amazing and the next day I was so hyped, couldn't wait to ride my bike up Balham hill ala Cobra. Day later I found he was a drugs cheat and so my enthusiasm drained.
But no! Contador is back and I for one, who likes him and think he is uber, am happy!
Discuss
Two things:
1. the guy's as guilty as sin, has been exposed as a drugs cheat but has got off due to being Spanish.
2. Balham Hill?! I know your tongue is firmly in cheek there, but seriously, Balham Hill?!!0 -
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In a similar story (both about sports)
seen the technicality they are trying to get that cricketer off with... he was found over the limit but because he was in the ashes winning team, they are trying to get him off a technicality due to the blood taking.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricke ... iving.html
fuck me, he got off as well...
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Seems strange that he has been cleared. I thought that if you had banned stuff in your body you got banned, regardless of how it got there. End of. Lots of people have been banned for picking up things from nasal spray/cough medicine etc.0
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Contador is innocent and thus my faith in the sport has been restored.Food Chain number = 4
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Contador has been let off and thus my faith in the anti-doping measures in the sport has been shaken to it's core"Impressive break"
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Attica, there are some butchers in Tooting (South London) that sell Chicken Legs and wings (individual pieces) the size of a new born baby. I'm sure after eating that a drug test would show many multiple steroids and growth hormone substances in the blood stream.
I completely understand where Contador is coming from.
But seriously, it was becoming ridiculous and if he is found guilty I don't think I could ever watch the Tour de France or any race and truly believe in the sport. Same with Athletics, given the sheer number of drugs cheats if Usain Bolt was ever proven to be a cheat I'd lose interest.
So I kinda want to believe Contador isn't a cheat. Also if he isn't it will set up years of Schelck and him in battling it out in the hills.Food Chain number = 4
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I agree, I'd love him not to be a cheat, in fact I'm not sure he was.
However the rules are there for a reason.
That he had the substance in his bloodstream is beyond doubt.
This means that (however the substance came to be there) Contador had an unfair advantage over his competitors (or if you're being really cynical, he was the only one who got caught).
Therefore, the very least I would expect to see would be him being stripped of his TdF win.
I know you're going to come back at me with something about micro doses, but the rules are there for a reason and that reason has just been ignored IMHO"Impressive break"
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_Brun_ wrote:Top trolling.
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It would only be trolling if he posted it in Pro Race.
Contador cheated. He got away with it.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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was not cleared
conveniently for the Spanish they could not prove it enough and have opted out.
as for Contador being clean. pah. The pope defecates in a stupid hat.0 -
http://www.sportsscientists.com/ offers some food for thought regarding it.
I'm of the opinion he's a cheat, and has got away with it. I admit to being biased, as I don't like Contador.0 -
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The way he's been let off is a f*cking disgrace He's a cheat, should be banned and stripped of his TDF title. Yet again the doping control bodies fail to lay down a marker. I'm starting to think that cycling will never be clean.
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Attica wrote:I agree, I'd love him not to be a cheat, in fact I'm not sure he was.
However the rules are there for a reason.
That he had the substance in his bloodstream is beyond doubt.
This means that (however the substance came to be there) Contador had an unfair advantage over his competitors (or if you're being really cynical, he was the only one who got caught).
Therefore, the very least I would expect to see would be him being stripped of his TdF win.
I know you're going to come back at me with something about micro doses, but the rules are there for a reason and that reason has just been ignored IMHO
+1. Just because the levels found were really low doesn't mean they weren't much much higher during his training etc...
I don't see WADA etc accepting the Spanish verdict. He's not off the hook yet, quite right too.Dahon Speed Pro TT; Trek Portland
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For those that haven't read the Landis/Kimmage interview, here's an insight into the world of Pro Tour doping - http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... diskimmageFCN 2 to 80
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Mr Plum wrote:For those that haven't read the Landis/Kimmage interview, here's an insight into the world of Pro Tour doping - http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... diskimmage
If you have a few hours spare!0 -
BigMat wrote:Mr Plum wrote:For those that haven't read the Landis/Kimmage interview, here's an insight into the world of Pro Tour doping - http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... diskimmage
If you have a few hours spare!
Or you could look in the Pro Race forum.
But that would take days and this thread has more or else summed it up.
As you were“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
BigMat wrote:Mr Plum wrote:For those that haven't read the Landis/Kimmage interview, here's an insight into the world of Pro Tour doping - http://nyvelocity.com/content/interview ... diskimmage
If you have a few hours spare!
ha, yeah it's a LONG(!) read but a fascinating insight.FCN 2 to 80