on one advice

trail jacker

Hi all,

Decided Im going to get an On One frame to replace my tired out GT Aggressor XC3, but I cant decide between the Inbred, 456 or 456 Summer season.

I will be running 130mm Tora 318's with whatever frame I get, and I do AM / XC riding and also go to trail centers. Im also getting into racing at the moment.

Any owners of on one's that could advise or point me in the right direction would be great, just after something that can take being thrown around easily and will complement the 130mm forks. Cheers!

ride_whenever

456

trail jacker

ha cheers, any reason in particular? is the summer season overkill for 130mm?

jairaj

the summer season has a slacker head angle than the normal one and I think it supposed to be for more aggro style riding.

For a good old all rounder / jack of all trades, the normal 456 is a good choice.

I think the Inbred has a max travel rating of 120mm and although is fine for trails centres I don't think its designed for AM style riding.

rockmonkeysc

456 is for xc/trail. Summer season is for going banzai.
Both will work perfectly well with a 130mm fork. I know people who us blue pigs for xc pretty well and the geometry & weight is very similar.
Because the Summer Season is slightly stronger it doesn't have the same spring to the frame so it's has a slightly more hash ride.
My summer season is a heavy duty AM/mini DH build, even with DH wheels & tyres & Rockshox Domain 160mm forks it's not too heavy for xc though my choice of 1x9 gearing will make it hard work.

peter413

Go for the ordinary 456, very versatile bike. I take mine happily down a lot of the DH trails at Inners as well as taking it on long XC rides. It isn't the most comfortable steel ride that you would expect but I personally don't care, it is a hardtail after all.

Just make sure you pick your parts carefully, due to some unfortunate errors/cock ups both on my part and others, my bike weighs a lot more than it should do but I could easily shed a good few pounds in weight just by getting some lighter wheels again and some ordinary tyres (running dual plys and very heavy DH wheels atm)

trail jacker

yeah, the main reason I was looking at the Inbred was because its a bit lighter than the 456. Im basically going to shift over everything from my GT onto the on-one and I dont think its going to be too heavy (fingers crossed). what do you reckon are the best areas to save weight on a bike except wheels?

The Northern Monkey

Keep the GT frame and upgrade other components.

On One would be a downgrade imo.

u05harrisb

save weight cheapest 1. you 2. tyres 3. wheels 4.forks those are the best things to look at, dont bother with the colored fancy stuff, black or chrome utilitarien stuff is best! cheaper too

456 or the inbred, have you looked at the scandel too?

ride_whenever

u05harrisb wrote:

save weight cheapest 1. you 2. tyres 3. wheels 4.forks those are the best things to look at, dont bother with the colored fancy stuff, black or chrome utilitarien stuff is best! cheaper too

456 or the inbred, have you looked at the scandel too?

Chrome is usually steel based and unlikely to be light, i'd recommend the silly coloured stuff as aluminium parts tend to be lighter than their steel counterparts.

gonetothehills

The 456 doesn't feel any heavier than the standard Inbred when you're riding it and makes for an excellent all round bike. Those that knock them probably haven't tried them. For the money (and a lot more!) there's not much to touch them on bang for buck. I find the 456 to be just a touch stiffer than the Inbred - but still perfectly comfy for a steel hardtail.

It'll be great with 130mm forks too - that's pretty much bang in the middle of its suggested travel range. If you're in my neck of the woods, you're welcome to try my 456 but it's got shorter forks on it than you'd be using.

Fenred

It's important to take into consideration what kind of rider you are and the terrain you usually ride. I ride an On-one and whilst chosing my frame I seriously considered my riding style and when and where I ride. I quickly and honestly talked myself down from bith 456 and SS and bought an inbred. I've never bottomed out 100mm Forks and I dont live in or near gnarly trail centres or particularly tough trails so for me the inbred in perfect and I have no regrets.

If you already have 130m travel forks I'd go 456, the negligable weight difference is naff all and the 2nd gen inbred is only cen tested to 120mm...456 all day for you i reckon...enjoy!

u05harrisb

Chrome is usually steel based and unlikely to be light, i'd recommend the silly coloured stuff as aluminium parts tend to be lighter than their steel counterparts.

when i say chrome i mean chrome colored i.e. shiny and colored ones are gernally speaking more expensive than there normal colored versions.

trail jacker

thanks guys, 456 it is!

The Northern Monkey

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Keep the GT frame and upgrade other components.

On One would be a downgrade imo.

requote myself.

Why would you swap a perfectly good frame for one that weighs twice as much and is very very stiff?!

what size is the GT? May be interested depending on price.

trail jacker

its an '07 aggressor xc3, 18". I just dont feel confident thrashing it about as its only intended for "light xc", not all mountain riding. I had a crash a few weeks ago and it has a dent in the downtube near the BB so that makes me even less confident when it comes to drops etc. I know the on one is weighty but its bombproof and is an awesome price too

gonetothehills

The 456 isn't weighty - its barely a pound heavier than something like a Cove Handjob - a premium steel hardtail that costs over 3 times the price! You'll love it. Weigh your GT - it's certainly not going to be half the weight as has been suggested. The 456 comes in at under 2.5Kg and 4130 chromoly steel is still a great material to make bikes from!

trail jacker

Yeah I reckon the GT is going to be around 2.2kg easily, it is only an entry level frame after all. cant wait to get my hands on the 456 now!