The big society?
Cleat Eastwood
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In the words of baddiel and skinner "it'll never work"
heres a futile attempt by lord redmond of hollyoaks trying to secure a table at the next tory conference
his article is worse than a grange hill script but the reader comments are class.
heres a futile attempt by lord redmond of hollyoaks trying to secure a table at the next tory conference
his article is worse than a grange hill script but the reader comments are class.
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
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Here's a better view IMO:
http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom ... volunteers0 -
Ironic that in Bristol the Volunteer Centre is losing much of its funding.0
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It works something like this:-
a) You have a job in social care or with council.
b) You loose job - cuts / sacked.
c) Job you were doing still needs to be done - you, with a little experience, volunteer i.e. no pay.
d) If all goes well government takes credit, if you fail all down to you / banks or the last administration.
simples.
P.S. if all vacant positions in areas hinted at are taken by volunteers where are the jobs coming from for all the young, middle aged and old age unemployed.0 -
What management systems will be in place to make sure all these volunteers are productive and not doing stuff that contradicts other efforts elsewhere? Or making sure hidden agendas, such as religious or social bias aren't being put in place by opportunists? You only have to look at wikipedia to see what well-meaning amateurs are capable of, good and bad. Who oversees (and, if there's a c0ck-up, is responsible for) consistency and quality control? How do you create incentives for people to volunteer time unpaid (or minimum wage low paid)?0
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I think the Cameron is determined to move the UK towards a US kind of structure where community groups provide a lot of social support services (welfare and recreation) that we here have, for the past sixty years or so, expected our local authorities and government-assisted charities to manage.
The problem here is that the church is not the hub of communities in quite the same way they are in mid-western USA – few people you meet in Britain will ask you which church you attend, as opposed to (for example) what you do for a living – so he has to promote this ideology with a more secular frame, hence the Big Society.0 -
Mr Cameron clearly hasn't read Howards End by E M Forster. 100 years ago, it was plain to see what damage could be wrought by worthy, well-meaning people with time on their hands, seeking to do good and achieving the opposite.
Well-regulated public services may be costly, but handing it all over to well-meaning do-gooders may turn out to cost us a lot more in the long term.0 -
Here's another US import Cameron and his City friends are indulging in: self-funded internships and the link with nepotism.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/dailypolitic ... ore_t.html0 -
plowmar wrote:It works something like this:-
a) You have a job in social care or with council.
b) You loose job - cuts / sacked.
c) Job you were doing still needs to be done - you, with a little experience, volunteer i.e. no pay.
d) If all goes well government takes credit, if you fail all down to you / banks or the last administration.
simples.
P.S. if all vacant positions in areas hinted at are taken by volunteers where are the jobs coming from for all the young, middle aged and old age unemployed.
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No volunteering until Petrol prices drop below £1
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Big society
The Prime Minister and his elite, from the most elitist school in England,
want us to forget the fact we live in the most class divided country
outside India, and all pitch in to make the big society.
I'll gladly do it IF they close down each and every public school in the UK.
Then, you won't have 11 year olds being told they are second rate
and you will have doctors, lawyers and other professionals all pushing for
a first class state education system.
Wanting a more level playing field does not make one a marxist.0 -
Why doesn't Dave put big Eric in charge of his Big Society project .
Surely Dave and Cleggers could have come up with a more imaginative title :roll: ?Life is like a roll of toilet paper; long and useful, but always ends at the wrong moment. Anon.
Think how stupid the average person is.......
half of them are even more stupid than you first thought.0 -
'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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It seems as though private companies will be the big winners - no surprise there then.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 15053.html0 -
Paying more tax...isn't that the only way we're going to secure decent care for the sick and the elderly?
I'm losing the will to listen to politics and related stories tbh, same old crap from each side, I don't want to live in ignorance but it's bloody tempting to never bother with the news again.0 -
The Big Society = Look after yourselves you f**kers, were off on our banking friends big yachts, tally-ho.0
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random man wrote:It seems as though private companies will be the big winners - no surprise there then.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 15053.html
I'm sure are a number of US companies who view the outsourcing of welfare and healthcare by civc authorities here as a potential motherlode. Do we really want to sleepwalk into such a situation?0 -
Cameron's Big Society -
I see big Tory con/scam
Geddit?0
