Headset help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeffhob1985
jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
edited January 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi all i need help with my new frame and headset!!
i have just got a Giant XTC 2011 frame and a hope headset. When I got the frame I removed the headset that came with it. and then tried to fit the hope headset not knowing its too small and thought the part of the headset that is meant to be showing is the part that needs to be in the head tube and I have made the top of the head tube bigger by trying to force the hope headset in. now the headset that it came with is too small as is the hope headset. what can i do to fix this without buying a new frame any ideas anyone??????????

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  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    How deep have you forced the wrong headset in?
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Opps.

    sounds like a new frame is needed.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    the hope headset sits flush with the top of the head tube. and it wont sit level if you know what i mean.
  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    Realise what you have done but am wondering how deep the damage to the head tube is?
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    If he has pressed an external hope headset into an internal headset frame then all the interface for the internal cup will be damaged.

    New frame.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • owenlars
    owenlars Posts: 719
    jeffhob1985 wrote:
    the hope headset sits flush with the top of the head tube. and it wont sit level if you know what i mean.

    LBS time I reckon
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    LBS time???????????
    And the damage to the headtube is about 7 mm down its been streched on the front side.
  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    nicklouse wrote:
    If he has pressed an external hope headset into an internal headset frame then all the interface for the internal cup will be damaged.

    New frame.

    Depending how deep. I fear it is a replacement but if he has forced a too small internal into the tube but not too far a ream and face may ameliorate the problem
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    the hope headset is an internal one. but the new giant frames head tube is larger than the hope headset so i tried forcing the top part of the hope headset making the head tube misshape and the damage is about 7 mm down.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    he says he has pressed it in flush.... so that will be what the full depth .. ouch.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    You kinda hope just the thickness of the top cap. But yeah, ouch
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    OP pictures would give a definitive answer. ( well almost).
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • owenlars
    owenlars Posts: 719
    jeffhob1985 wrote:
    LBS time???????????
    And the damage to the headtube is about 7 mm down its been streched on the front side.

    Local Bike Shop
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    i will have to upload pictures tomorrow as i dont have camera with me.
  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    Missed the 7mm post. That's terminal :(
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    thats what i thought. do you know if giant would replace the frame? ive only had it 1 week.
  • Wooliferkins
    Wooliferkins Posts: 2,060
    Doubtful as you've buggered it. Sorry
    Neil
    Help I'm Being Oppressed
  • Herbie The Dog
    Herbie The Dog Posts: 343
    I think this needs to be added to Nicklouse's Tales from the Workshop sticky!
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    7mm donw, new frame I'm afraid, look on the bright side, you can choose the frame you want to go with your components!

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jeffhob1985
    jeffhob1985 Posts: 18
    yes that is true. means more money though!! i think my girlfriend will not be happy with this!!!

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