Best way to remove a square-taper crank arm...

.blitz
.blitz Posts: 6,197
edited January 2011 in MTB workshop & tech
...without using an extractor?

For reasons I won't go into here :oops: I can remove the crank bolt but I can't use an extractor tool on the Chucker's drive side crank arm. Is it a rubber mallet + chisel job or is there another way?

I'd like to keep the BB if possible but it doesn't matter about the crank arm.

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    cut a slot in the arm down to a flat on the axle.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    edited January 2011
    I like that thanks Nick
  • FSRian
    FSRian Posts: 28
    if your not worried about the crank arm, a blow torch to heat it up thus allowing some expansion and a hammer.
    or cut the crank arm off the taper with a hacksaw.

    whatever you do i would say you will end up needing a new bottom bracket in the short term anyway as your going to be giving the seals and bearing some abuse removing the crank.
  • mcj78
    mcj78 Posts: 634
    Remove the crank bolt & ride it until it falls off? Any time i've had a crank bolt randomly loosen itself off, i've only noticed because the crank arm has followed suit!
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The chucker I split had a really nice BB in it (for a square taper), so worth trying not to damage the BB!

    Personally I'd cut as far through the crank (without hitting the BB) as I could in 2 places (180 apart) and try and get it to split.

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    mcj78 wrote:
    Remove the crank bolt & ride it until it falls off?
    Good one! A mile or two of creaking followed by an ominous click through the crank arm and it should fall off. I hope :)

    Cheers!
  • mcj78
    mcj78 Posts: 634
    .blitz wrote:
    mcj78 wrote:
    Remove the crank bolt & ride it until it falls off?
    Good one! A mile or two of creaking followed by an ominous click through the crank arm and it should fall off. I hope :)

    Cheers!

    Haha - I used this method a couple of times until I got round to buying a proper extractor, don't go too far mind - you get some funny looks cycling home one-legged... :oops:

    Good luck with it!
    J
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  • warpcow
    warpcow Posts: 1,448
    Or even just remove the bolt and a couple of bunnyhops should get it loose. Perhaps more potential for pain than just riding though, but it worked for me 'back in the day'.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Or just hit it with a hammer. A swift "tap" on the back on the crank arm, away from the bike should do it. I tried the riding around thing with no joy, and cutting through it was a right PITA and took ages.
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    OK thanks fellas.

    I will ride around with the bolt removed and see if it falls off.

    Failing that I will try a bit of mechanical persuasion.

    Last resort will be to cut it off.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    my first is to cut.

    it takes less time than any of the others.

    riding I know people who gave up after 2 hours....

    hammer just does not work if the arm has been on for any length of time.

    the cutting is only through the alloy to the axle to let the arm "spring" and release its grip on the taper.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • *AJ*
    *AJ* Posts: 1,080
    Nicks right, and riding on it could also damage the taper anyway.
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    I used a Dremel with a cutting disc cut 4 slots in the ally around the taper about 3/4 of the way into the arm, didnt go all the way in case I scored the taper. Then got big hammer whacked the arm from the outside and the arm cracked and dropped off took me about 15 mins in all.
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