Using Two Sets of Wheels - A novice asking for trouble?

superkenners
superkenners Posts: 169
edited January 2011 in Road buying advice
I ride Specialized Allez Sport with the 9 speed Tiagra groupset and have just bought myself some Fulcram 3's with the idea I will use them for training and some Sportives while keeping my current Mavic CXP-22's which are a bit heavy but fairly solid for commuting on which is where most of my miles come from at this time of year.

I want to be able to simply switch over the wheels without having to make any adjustments but not sure if this works. Wondering if I would need to use the same cassette (which I think is the Shimano HG-50 11-25) on the Fulcrams to achieve this or will i need to tweak the gears to get this to work irrespective of which cassette I fit.

Alternately can I use a different cassette and expect this to work seamlessly? Would not mind an upgraded cassette for the better wheels.

Any pointers or thoughts much appreciated!
Allez
Brompton
Krypton
T-130

Never tell her how much it costs ......

Comments

  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    I have four sets of wheels, each with their own cassette, they are interchangable without any adjustment needed.
  • That's reassuring! Do you use the same type of cassette on each wheel? Wondering if any shimano 9 speed would be fine.
    Allez
    Brompton
    Krypton
    T-130

    Never tell her how much it costs ......
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    Any Shimano 9sp will work
  • geebee2
    geebee2 Posts: 248
    You may find you need to adjust the rear derailleur limit screws after switching wheels.

    I once failed to do this and over-shifted past the largest cog, resulting in chain jammed, which could have damaged the spokes ( I just about got away with it, but that's not a good thing to happen ).
  • geebee2 wrote:
    You may find you need to adjust the rear derailleur limit screws after switching wheels.

    You don't have to. So long as your gears are set up properly for one 9 speed shimano cassette it should be easy to switch wheels to another with a shimano 9 speed cassette. Just make sure you don't have too many teeth on the largest sprocket if you are using a short reach rear mech.

    If you ever watch the professionals they always change the wheel when they puncture in a race - it takes seconds and there is no fannying around with limit screws!
    Summer - Colnago C40
    Race - Wilier Alpe D'Huez
    Winter/Commuter - Specialized Tricross
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    I tried running two sets of wheels on a MTB, one with knobblies, one with slicks. The trouble was, the rims were slightly different profiles so I had to adjust the brakes every time I swapped the wheels over - not very convenient!

    You might have a similar problem so remember to check your brake block alignment after putting the new wheels on.
  • geebee2
    geebee2 Posts: 248
    If you ever watch the professionals they always change the wheel when they puncture in a race - it takes seconds and there is no fannying around with limit screws!

    Clearly if the wheels are identical in every respect, there will not be a problem.

    I'm reporting my experience ( which was with 8-speed ).

    It turned out, for whatever reason, that I did need to change adjust the limit screw when changing between the wheels.
  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    At one point I was using a mixture of Tiagra and three Ultegra (12-25 or 12-27) 9-speed cassettes on four different wheelsets on my old Allez. Never found the need to make adjustments to the gears when swapping out rear wheels. Only change I had to make was to the brake calipers barrel adjustment as some of the rims were wider.
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    I run two sets of wheels on the same bike

    Wheels No 1 are some the ones that came with the bike - shimano 105 cassette 11-25

    Wheels No 2 are Miche race - shimano ultegra 11-28 cassette

    They swap over with no adjustments whatsoever
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    As above, I swap between Easton EA70's, Fulcrum 7's, Mavic CXP22's and a set of Carbon aero's, no adjustments needed to the gearing.

    All the cassettes are different, can't remember exactly which ones, but I know they are a combination of Tiagra, 105 and Ultegra
  • Thanks for comments, very helpful. Just looking forward to getting the Fulcram 3's up and running, hopefully should be a big improvement on the Mavic's.
    Allez
    Brompton
    Krypton
    T-130

    Never tell her how much it costs ......
  • clx1
    clx1 Posts: 200
    geebee2 wrote:
    You may find you need to adjust the rear derailleur limit screws after switching wheels.

    You don't have to. So long as your gears are set up properly for one 9 speed shimano cassette it should be easy to switch wheels to another with a shimano 9 speed cassette. Just make sure you don't have too many teeth on the largest sprocket if you are using a short reach rear mech.

    If you ever watch the professionals they always change the wheel when they puncture in a race - it takes seconds and there is no fannying around with limit screws!

    That's because they are changing to the same type of wheel!
  • clx1
    clx1 Posts: 200
    geebee2 wrote:
    You may find you need to adjust the rear derailleur limit screws after switching wheels.

    You don't have to. So long as your gears are set up properly for one 9 speed shimano cassette it should be easy to switch wheels to another with a shimano 9 speed cassette. Just make sure you don't have too many teeth on the largest sprocket if you are using a short reach rear mech.

    If you ever watch the professionals they always change the wheel when they puncture in a race - it takes seconds and there is no fannying around with limit screws!

    That's because they are changing to the same type of wheel!
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    If the wheels are set-up identically, you'll simply be able to swap-over.

    But if the axle is centred very slightly differently, you might find that you need to give the rear mech adjustment screw a half turn or something to get the gears to mesh perfectly, but they should be OK for top & bottom limit screws unless the axle centreing/wheel dishing is out on one set.

    And as Colin says, the rims might be a different width, meaning you have to adjust the brake clearance/lever reach slightly with the brake adjustment screw
    - my Ksyriums are narrower than my Fulcrum 5's

    Should only be minor tweaks, take seconds to do
  • 7 sets, mix of campag and shimano, none of which need any adjustment when fitting into either of the 3 bikes I use.
  • ADIHEAD
    ADIHEAD Posts: 575
    Make sure your chain is in perfect condition though - an old chain will skip on a new cassette and vs/vs. You will also cause wear to the newer component if not carefull. I've 4 sets of wheels for 2 bikes. I get fed up with re-indexing and adjusting brakes though to be honest and tend not to swap much:roll: As you've only 9sp that does tend to be more tolerant however :D
  • 7 sets, mix of campag and shimano, none of which need any adjustment when fitting into either of the 3 bikes I use.

    My god, how do you choose

    Like having 3 houses and seven girlfriends...