Wiggins versus Hutch

ozzzyosborn206

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... wdown.html

Personnaly i think Wiggins would own him but what do you lot think?

Pross

Wiggins has won the time trials they have met in most recently (from memory so probably wrong). At the short 10 mile distance we are getting closer to Wiggos pursuit distance. I don't think the equipment will play much part as both are very aero so will lose a similar amount. Wiggins every time for me, I don't think it would even be close.

LangerDan

I think Wiggins would win, but it might be closer than you'd think. Hutch's preparation for the athletes hour record gave him a lot of data on getting as aero as possible on a "retro drop bar machine". IIRC, he was able to save tens of Watts by tuning his position for the older type bike. When the power difference between them isn't particularly significant, saving 20 or 30 Watts in positioning could swing the win.

Tom BB

On top form, Wiggins easily imo

Tom Butcher

Hutch has always come up short of the top world class testers hasn't he - Commonwealth Games being the most recent example - he's by no means outclassed but even compared to the best the UK can put out he can't match the likes of Wiggo, Millar or even Dowsett when they are on form.

ynyswen24

Hutch is a great rider (and writer...) but the way he got trounced at the National Champs, no way would he beat Wiggins. The visual difference between them, style, effort, build, ease, comfort - you name it - was huge.

RichN95.

As Dr. Hutch says in the linked article: ""It's pretty asymmetrical. He's Bradley Wiggins, the leader of Team Sky. I'm a journalist who races bikes in his spare time - it doesn't matter that I might have quite a lot of spare time to do that!"

On the other hand "The Hour" is a better book than "In Pursuit of Glory" (I liked them both though)

frenchfighter

This would be really cool. I think it would be very close too.

Scrumple

Hutch is coming to talk at our club dinner soon...

I'll get chance to ask him a few questions!

shockedsoshocked

Wiggins is the superior athlete. Simple.

inkyfingers

ShockedSoShocked wrote:

Wiggins is the superior athlete. Simple.

I have great respect for Hutch but I think the above is true. Wiggins is so naturally gifted, he looks like he was born to ride TT's/Pursuits. Hutch strikes me as someone who has had to work very very hard to get to the level he's at, but his achievements are very impressive all the same.

It seems to me that one of the few people who can beat Bradley Wiggins, is Bradley Wiggins.

frenchfighter

Not sure why so many people are so quick to dismiss Hutch. The guy has been wiping the floor with everyone over all distances for a decade. Maintaning this level of dominance over a decade is an incredible feat.

Here is his palmares if you are not aware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hutchinson#Honours

Maybe Wiggins would beat him at 10, for longer distances it may be a different story. If he does, then it wont be a crushing defeat, that is almost certain.

Also, who knows how good Wiggins would be if he was TTing on the side or how good Hutch would be if he was a full time Pro.

Tom BB

frenchfighter wrote:

Not sure why so many people are so quick to dismiss Hutch. The guy has been wiping the floor with everyone over all distances for a decade. Maintaning this level of dominance over a decade is an incredible feat.

Here is his palmares if you are not aware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hutchinson#Honours

Maybe Wiggins would beat him at 10, for longer distances it may be a different story.

I agree that he is a great rider FF....especially considering he isn't full time etc......however, at the Commonwealths he was a long was behind Millar and Dowsett-guys that Wiggins is easily on a par with imo...

Hutch says it best in CW "Wiggins is just plain old fashioned quicker than me"

frenchfighter

Possibly he wasn't used to travelling or the temperatures/climate unlike the pros. If it was run in the UK it would probably have been a different story. Who knows.

inkyfingers

To be fair FF, I don't see anyone dismissing Hutch, just people saying that in their opinion Wiggins would win. If I say Cav is a faster sprinter than Hushovd it doesn't mean i'm saying that Hushovd is a crap rider!

shockedsoshocked

frenchfighter wrote:

Possibly he wasn't used to travelling or the temperatures/climate unlike the pros. If it was run in the UK it would probably have been a different story. Who knows.

The only difference would have been the location of the games.

gsk82

2010 nationals results

1 Bradley Wiggins Sky Pro Cycling 1:04:55
2 Christopher Froome Sky Pro Cycling 1:06:17
3 Geraint Thomas Sky Pro Cycling 1:06:30
4 Michael Hutchinson In Gear/Quickvit/Trainsharp RT 1:06:58

2009 nationals results

Senior Men (31.2 miles):
1 Bradley Wiggins (Garmin Slipstream) 1:02:15
2 Michael Hutchinson (In Gear-Quickvit RT) 1:04:34
3 Chris Newton (Rapha Condor) 1:06:14
4 Rob Hayles (Halfords Bikehut) 1:06:23
5 Wouter Sybrandy (Sigma Sport RT) 1:06:33

ozzzyosborn206

frenchfighter wrote:

Not sure why so many people are so quick to dismiss Hutch. The guy has been wiping the floor with everyone over all distances for a decade. Maintaning this level of dominance over a decade is an incredible feat.

Here is his palmares if you are not aware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hutchinson#Honours

Maybe Wiggins would beat him at 10, for longer distances it may be a different story. If he does, then it wont be a crushing defeat, that is almost certain.

Also, who knows how good Wiggins would be if he was TTing on the side or how good Hutch would be if he was a full time Pro.

Hutch was the guest speaker at our club presentation last year and he said that when he first turned 'pro' he trained loads like the pro tours guys do but only noticed a very small gain in his speed, and with time and learning about how his body reacts to different training he now only does about 7 hours a week of specific training leading up to national events because that is what works best for him. He also said as it does in that article that he has a massive lung capacity which is the main reason he is so good so the comment further up someone made about he being the type of guy who tries very very hard to get where he is is not all that correct

SBezza

I would point out that the BTTC is over a hilly course, so more suited to Wiggins, put them on a fast DC course and I think it might be closer than people think.

shockedsoshocked

ozzzyosborn206 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Not sure why so many people are so quick to dismiss Hutch. The guy has been wiping the floor with everyone over all distances for a decade. Maintaning this level of dominance over a decade is an incredible feat.

Here is his palmares if you are not aware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hutchinson#Honours

Maybe Wiggins would beat him at 10, for longer distances it may be a different story. If he does, then it wont be a crushing defeat, that is almost certain.

Also, who knows how good Wiggins would be if he was TTing on the side or how good Hutch would be if he was a full time Pro.

Hutch was the guest speaker at our club presentation last year and he said that when he first turned 'pro' he trained loads like the pro tours guys do but only noticed a very small gain in his speed, and with time and learning about how his body reacts to different training he now only does about 7 hours a week of specific training leading up to national events because that is what works best for him. He also said as it does in that article that he has a massive lung capacity which is the main reason he is so good so the comment further up someone made about he being the type of guy who tries very very hard to get where he is is not all that correct

A story I've heard from someone who worked with Hutch (testing etc), was that they stuck him on a Monark cycle for a wingate test. So he performs the test, and the guy turns around and says "okay, but next time can you actually sprint". Hutch apparently replied "I was sprinting". Make of that what you will.

jimmythecuckoo

Oh stuff if, let's vote for the Hutch.

He is a specialist.

zammmmo

I see Wiggins really is eyeing up '10' dates (tweet). Bring it on. 8)

nick hanson

If both were on top form,then Wiggo might well shade it,but,I don't think it would be the walk over that some think.
Hutch's best distance (biggest relative 'beating' of 2nd place rider) does actually tend to be in 10's.
Wiggo is unlikely to be on top form for a head to head,as his team will surely want him to peak for a certain grand tour,so,my punt is on Hutch