Whats the difference? Canyon frames...

mattbass789
mattbass789 Posts: 355
edited January 2011 in Road beginners
I've been eyeing up canyon bikes for a while now.
But just looking at the raw frame prices.

the Ultimate CF and the Ultimate CF SLX... What's the difference?
Conceivably there isn't anything despite there being £300 difference in price.

Thanks in advance hoping someone can shed some light on it quickly!

Matt.
“If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

@mattbeedham

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  • zoso7
    zoso7 Posts: 66
    The SLX frame is a couple of hundred grams lighter and is what the Pro's use. The CF is still an extremely good & light frame in its own right.
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    just checked the site for the weights. There's only 50grams difference!
    Worth all that extra money? Probably doubtful.
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • edhornby
    edhornby Posts: 1,741
    50 grams is nether here nor there, a 10th of a small bidon, I'd go with the non-CLX
    "I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, how good is that"
    --Jens Voight
  • wildmoustache
    wildmoustache Posts: 4,010
    slx has a different type of carbon fibre to the model below. but you'll need to understand german to get that from their website
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    hmm. I'll admit my german ain't great!

    I'll see what I can find out with the leads I have!
    Cheers guys.
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • thel33ter
    thel33ter Posts: 2,684
    The SLX probably has a different layup, so it would ride differently too, not just a weight difference.
    And now you know, and knowing is half the battle
    05 Spesh Enduro Expert
    05 Trek 1000 Custom build
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  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    It is a lighter frame albeit very small difference. It is stiffer as well due to a different carbon lay up.

    I plumped for the CF pro as I couldn't tell the £300 difference.
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    gazzaputt, what are your thoughts on the frame? How does it ride?

    I'm planning my post xmas saving for next summer... sacrifice with online is not getting to fiddle before buying... fiddle with the bike that is :roll:
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • Guyzie
    Guyzie Posts: 79
    In a similar position myself.

    Contemplating/can't make my mind up over the top CF, the base CF SLX or a base Aeroad. Complete bikes rather than frames.

    One of the first two probably makes the most sense, but the Aeroad is a cool looking piece of kit. Well they all look good :-)
    Finger has been hovering over the Aeroad buy button!

    Some interesting reviews around which give the impression the Aeroad might be a "more" comfy ride, but that could all be relative.
    Stiffness and a racier position aren't a problem as I has that with my current machine (2004 TCR).

    So what's the Pro like Gazzaputt?
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    Well I'd be going for a full build bike. And there are no other brands out there at the moment that grab me. Other than the new elite boardmans... which look very interesting.

    Would the benefits be tangible? It'd be my first carbon bike so I want something that would last a years racing. And hold it's own in a time trial... but don't want to spend the earth.
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • jonmack
    jonmack Posts: 522
    In all honesty you saying that about wanting to ride TT's on it is making me think you should go for the Aeroad if you can afford it. Any of them will last a seasons racing though, without any issues what so ever (as long as you don't have a crash which wrecks the frame!)
  • John.T
    John.T Posts: 3,698
    Whichever of those you get will not make one iota difference in a race. It is your legs that do that. The £300 would probably be better spent on a better wheel set (or coaching).
    Re lasting a year. I should hope they would. I am still riding my 10 year old Trek 5200.
    My Fleet.
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    The Pro is the dog nads!!! I love it.

    I tested a Cervelo R3SL and i can honestly say it rides as good.

    Stiff and compliant you can really feel the power transfer to the road. It descends very well and has given me a new found confidence. I think this may be down to the 1/4 headtube it feels so stable.

    I built with a SRAM REd/Force mix, ritchey components (all though was supplied with stem and WCS carbon seatpost) and Mavic R-Sys premiums. Weight is about 6.3kg if my scales are to be believed.

    I cannot recommend it highly enough.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... highlight=
  • mattbass789
    mattbass789 Posts: 355
    Sounds excellent. My budget was no more than 2k... Want to save the money in between for a few other treats. :D

    and yes it is always the legs that make the difference, always been a believer of that. It being my first foray into carbon, I don't want to be even the slightest disappointed after that amount of money. I'm still a student...
    “If you worried about falling off the bike, you’d never get on.”

    @mattbeedham
  • elcanyonman
    elcanyonman Posts: 18
    I've put 12000km on my ultimate cf this year without a problem. I thought the only difference with the slx was the forks. If you only want a frame getting a race license is well worth it for the discount. The best bike I've ever had :lol:
    http://www.vamoscycling.com/
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 44,048
    mattbass789 wrote:
    Well I'd be going for a full build bike. And there are no other brands out there at the moment that grab me. Other than the new elite boardmans... which look very interesting.

    Would the benefits be tangible? It'd be my first carbon bike so I want something that would last a years racing. And hold it's own in a time trial... but don't want to spend the earth.

    I'd be seriously worried about any frame that didn't last a year's racing unless it had a serious crash! I would hope to get at the very least 5 years racing out of any bike :shock:
  • MrChuck
    MrChuck Posts: 1,663
    John.T wrote:
    Whichever of those you get will not make one iota difference in a race.

    <pedantic>
    Well, if it's a bit lighter it would make an iota of difference ;-)
    </pedantic>
  • John.T
    John.T Posts: 3,698
    MrChuck wrote:
    John.T wrote:
    Whichever of those you get will not make one iota difference in a race.
    <pedantic>
    Well, if it's a bit lighter it would make an iota of difference ;-)
    </pedantic>
    What do you think. Maybe a couple of foot on a mile climb. :roll:
    May be worth £300 to a top rider but not most of us. Extra £300 on the wheels would be better. :lol:
    My Fleet.
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    John.T wrote:
    MrChuck wrote:
    John.T wrote:
    Whichever of those you get will not make one iota difference in a race.
    <pedantic>
    Well, if it's a bit lighter it would make an iota of difference ;-)
    </pedantic>
    What do you think. Maybe a couple of foot on a mile climb. :roll:
    May be worth £300 to a top rider but not most of us. Extra £300 on the wheels would be better. :lol:

    Totally agree.

    The money I saved from not buying the SLX went towards my R-Sys :D
  • MrChuck
    MrChuck Posts: 1,663
    John.T wrote:
    MrChuck wrote:
    John.T wrote:
    Whichever of those you get will not make one iota difference in a race.
    <pedantic>
    Well, if it's a bit lighter it would make an iota of difference ;-)
    </pedantic>
    What do you think. Maybe a couple of foot on a mile climb. :roll:
    May be worth £300 to a top rider but not most of us. Extra £300 on the wheels would be better. :lol:

    Yeah, something like that. So an iota of difference. :roll:

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