Stuart Baggs

northernneil

still a prat ....

had to be pursuaded to come on Radio 5 live this morning ....

must have been those ponies holding back his extreme masculinity whilst he spoooooons stuff

Warwickshire Whizzer

Maybe Radio 5 doesnt fit in with 'The Brand'

bobtbuilder

Fat Clown! :x

Claude telling him "you're not even a fish". Brilliant.

northernneil

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12008388

not allowed back for the final !

newtez2

Watching him getting fired was so funny, i havnt laughed so hard in ages!
Lord Sugar was right to fire him, he just a talker and a ##ll shi##er

mroli

really? I don't think the fact that he has a business that turns over £3m a year was disputed. At the age of 21. Baggs was comedy gold (I'm not a one trick pony, not a 10 trick pony, I have a field of ponies...!, "You're not a brand" "I think I might be...."), came across as very self-possessed, and self-aware (did you see you've been fired where he described himself as a bit of a cock?).

More than just a talker and a bull sh*tt*r in my view and as people said - he was the candidate that people will remember in years to come....

Something about Manxmen maybe - they aren't shy in coming forward!

bobtbuilder

A telecomms company on the Isle of Man? So that'll be two cans joined with a bit of string?

cougie

IF he has a company that turnsover £3m pa within 2 years of starting - WHY would you want to jack that in and work for someone else ? That doesnt make sense to me.

AndyF16

mroli wrote:

I have a field of ponies...!,!

you forgot the "literally" that he sprinkled in there, that's just one thing that boils my piss about these eejits - the posh one said on the same ep. that he would be/had been (can't remember which) "literally grilled" :?

if they can't even grasp the basics of English language then....

oh, i can't be arsed typing any more :roll: :evil:

rick_chasey

AndyF16 wrote:

mroli wrote:

I have a field of ponies...!,!

you forgot the "literally" that he sprinkled in there, that's just one thing that boils my wee-wee about these eejits - the posh one said on the same ep. that he would be/had been (can't remember which) "literally grilled" :?

if they can't even grasp the basics of English language then....

oh, i can't be arsed typing any more :roll: :evil:

Maybe you shouldn't take them so literally?

MarcBC

cougie wrote:

IF he has a company that turnsover £3m pa within 2 years of starting - WHY would you want to jack that in and work for someone else ? That doesnt make sense to me.

Agreed, although I thought his words were "I am a director of a company that turns over...." that is not the same as owning.

He should have gone a long time ago, however, I suspect that TV ratings got in the way.

Percy Vera

cougie wrote:

IF he has a company that turnsover £3m pa within 2 years of starting - WHY would you want to jack that in and work for someone else ? That doesnt make sense to me.

Maybe his expenditure is £4m?

verylonglegs

Percy Vera wrote:

cougie wrote:

IF he has a company that turnsover £3m pa within 2 years of starting - WHY would you want to jack that in and work for someone else ? That doesnt make sense to me.

Maybe his expenditure is £4m?

yeah, don't know why turnover is quoted...it's profit and growth that really matter. Don't know why I'm pitching in though as I don't even watch the bloody program!

RichN95.

mroli wrote:

Something about Manxmen maybe - they aren't shy in coming forward!

You weren't the only one thinking that:

Cavendish - world class talent + 4 stone = Brand Baggs

Ollieda

verylonglegs wrote:

Percy Vera wrote:

cougie wrote:

IF he has a company that turnsover £3m pa within 2 years of starting - WHY would you want to jack that in and work for someone else ? That doesnt make sense to me.

Maybe his expenditure is £4m?

yeah, don't know why turnover is quoted...it's profit and growth that really matter. Don't know why I'm pitching in though as I don't even watch the bloody program!

People always quote turnover as quite simply it sounds better than your profit. They'll probably say that quoting turnover gives you a more accurate idea of the size of business but genrally its just a way you can quote the big numbers

grahamcp

Baggs didn't come across too badly on 5live yesterday, just a bit paranoid about everyone hating him. I'm still not completely convinced half the stuff he says is true but if it is then fair play, I was amounting to not very much at all when I was that age.

Joanna sounds as thick as pig poo. I really don't think she was joking when she asked Jamie whether he did have a third nipple or not! He'd even just repeated the bit where he said that was the biggest lie he'd told.

I'm surprised that it looks like Chris Farrall is back for the final. He's the ex marine who was arrested and bailed for suspected fraud. Not sure what the outcome of that was though - guess it must have been not guilty, although he has previously pleaded guilty to possessing an extendable baton and a knuckleduster which he had alledgedly hit his wife with.

Disappointed there wasn't a tv shopping channel episode this year but looking to the final and it's still one of the few very decent things on telly right now.

mroli

GrahamCP - agreed - it is quality tv, not because of the quality of the candidates, but because of the beautiful way it is edited to tell a story and highlight the stupid things that people say, but also how it does draw you in and make you have opinions about the protagonists. If you compare it to something like X-Factor, it shows how rushed they have to be to get it out.

morstar

I think it's one of the very few programmes to watch. Obviously it is not a normal reflection of a normal business but it does explore many facets of sales and marketing that do all occur in normal businesses every day.
As for Stuart, he clearly stayed in a lot longer than he merited from a business perspective because he was entertaing (if a little cringeworthy).
Having said that, if you've ever seen a write up in the paper of something with which you are associated, you will often wonder how on earth journalists get away with it. I presume TV is just the same. They will identify and focus on one aspect of things to sell a story. Hence Stuart Baggs the brand becomes the theme. It probably only represented a tiny aspect of his persona and was possibly only originally contrived to make himself stand out in the selection process.
At 21, as a director of a £3M turnover company, regardless of profit, I suspect he has a bright future.

sloboy

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity

as the old saying goes, but to be fair, profit is generally much more volatile than turnover and much more dependent on company lifecycle stage.

I thought he was unbearable though.

morstar

sloboy wrote:

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity

as the old saying goes, but to be fair, profit is generally much more volatile than turnover and much more dependent on company lifecycle stage.

I thought he was unbearable though.

Agree completely re profit vs turnover. I have watched a sales manager of one of the businesses I work for completely fail to grasp this concept. It is ridiculous to listen to somebody bleating on about revenue when the gross profit of an established business only comes in at 6%. He's not with us anymore!

However, business lifecycle, as you say is very relevant. If the business model was a complete disaster then I suspect cashflow would have killed it by now. At 21 a key player in this business and obviously a confident self starter. I'm sure he'll do alright.

If I met him in person, I doubt very much that we'd get on but I refuse to knock him for taking a full part in programme I enjoy.

Valy

Funny how people get wound up about different things! :P

SB - yeah a bit of a dick with erm, cringy aspects of personality but not a fool.

Frank the tank

The man is an absolute liar and a to55er to boot.

Lord Sugar almost lost it when giving him the elbow,as he felt he'd been duped and I'm sure he's had to deal with some right planks in his time.

lucan

I clicked on this thread cos I had no idea who he was. I'd never heard or read his name.

Made me think that some people will watch any old $hite.

Valy

Lucan wrote:

I clicked on this thread cos I had no idea who he was. I'd never heard or read his name.

Made me think that some people will watch any old $hite.

Don't knock it till you tried it. It sound like an x-factor/big brother thing, but is a lot better.

-spider-

Lucan wrote:

I clicked on this thread cos I had no idea who he was. I'd never heard or read his name.

Made me think that some people will watch any old $hite.

Didn't watch it! - Where have you been?

secretsqizz

Lucan wrote:

I clicked on this thread cos I had no idea who he was. I'd never heard or read his name.

Made me think that some people will watch any old $hite.

AND yet you make time to log on and read this tripe..?!? Lucan, you are a class 1 eeedjut

Tom Butcher

I thought Baggs came out of the show OK - early on came across as a class 1 **** but as it went on it became apparent he didn't take himself too seriously. Thought the sacking was a bit harsh - I don't know about the technicalities of what kind of licence he had and vs what he claimed but to me it seemed like a bit of exaggeration at most and the guy (Boron, Boredom, whatever his name was ?) seemed to make more of it than was really there.

Cumulonimbus

Grahamcp wrote:

I'm surprised that it looks like Chris Farrall is back for the final. He's the ex marine who was arrested and bailed for suspected fraud. Not sure what the outcome of that was though - guess it must have been not guilty, although he has previously pleaded guilty to possessing an extendable baton and a knuckleduster which he had alledgedly hit his wife with.

This series of the Apprentice was supposed to be shown early in the year but the showing was postponed because it would have been shown in the lead-up to the general election and Alan Sugar was the 'enterprise-tzar' or something so it would have apparently been unfair. The shows are normally filmed the previous autumn so the final task may have been filmed over a year ago. I assume that the alleged fraud was not known at that time. Yes, he is on bail - i think proceedings are going to happen around now?

Actually, i could have just posted a link to this story! It is in the sun but apparently he has been working for a mortgage broker before being sacked and the alleged fraud relates to his time in the company.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -year.html

Cumulonimbus

Tom Butcher wrote:

I thought Baggs came out of the show OK - early on came across as a class 1 **** but as it went on it became apparent he didn't take himself too seriously. Thought the sacking was a bit harsh - I don't know about the technicalities of what kind of licence he had and vs what he claimed but to me it seemed like a bit of exaggeration at most and the guy (Boron, Boredom, whatever his name was ?) seemed to make more of it than was really there.

Yeah, he came across as a c*ck at first but after he fluked his win as a project manager in the dvd task he seemed to calm down a lot. As project manager in the bus tour task he seemd to lose it a bit again - 'go on then, hit me.' Made him look like he was in the schoolyard or something but then it could have been a response to something the other guy said that we didnt see, ie 'if you come over here then i'll hit you.' Thats part of the problem with the show - you dont know how fair they are with the editing. Having said that i dont think you can ever condone challenging someone to hit you. I thought he should have gone that week, the team lost and he didnt sell much at all. Can only think that Alan Sugar had decided that Liz was good at sales and general organising but just lacked enough else.

I wasnt sure whether he was just a bit immature and too eager to impress by exaggerating.

brucey72

So who's going to win tonight then?

I think they both come across pretty well on the show but on the basis that Chris's monotone voice would bore me to tears I'll go for Stella.

AndyD2574

Stuart 'i get £1000 pocket money a week off mummy and daddy'...............TW@T!

Britich industry is safe now that he has been let loose!!....phew!!