Im after some wheels !!! Anybody know of....

DazlerD

Hi

Im after some new wheels for my race bike.

They will be used for racing only which will be mainly flat airfield circuit of Ilton and Castle Combe race track. With this in mind I was hoping to get Tubular as the risk of puncture is a lot lower than if I was to use them on the road.

I really like the Reynolds Assault but they have carbon rims and I dont think I can be bothered changing the brake pads twice a week.
The only aero section wheels i can find are SRAM as the are carbon but have an alu brake surface. However these are clincher only.

Does anybody know of a aero carbon wheel with alu brake surface that is Tubular compatible? Or what wheels would you suggest? Racing zeros? R-SYS red?

Thanks

inseine

Shimano 7850 50s would be a good choice.

DazlerD

Hi

Ive looked at those but arent they carbon rims?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29933

Thanks

DazlerD

Ive narrowed it down to two:

Reynolds assualt 50mm tubular
1330gm
£810
Tubular tyres
But carbon rims so id have to keep changing brake blocks
So a lot lighter (400gm) than the Mavics and better roll with the tubs

Mavic cosmic carbone SL
1740gm
£765
Clinchers
No changing brake blocks.
But heavier than the Reynolds

Think im going to have to go with the Mavics.....

Stuy-b

Swisstop yellow brake pads can be used on both carbon and alu rims meaning no swaping brake pads so you can get the better, much lighter wheel set.

Anonymous

Hed make alu rimmed carbon tubs IIRC...

Pokerface

Stuy-b wrote:

Swisstop yellow brake pads can be used on both carbon and alu rims meaning no swaping brake pads so you can get the better, much lighter wheel set.

I use two sets of wheels on my race bike - one regular alu set for training and a set of full carbon Zipps for racing.

I was going to use the Swisstop Yellow pads for both - but a lot of people pointed out that it's not a great idea. Little bits of alu can get embedded in the brake pads - and then they can shred your carbon rims. Maybe this is true - maybe not.

But as was pointed out to me - why risk wrecking a very expensive set of carbon wheels for the sake of a few minutes?

So I just swap brake blocks when I swap wheels. It's not that often and only takes a few minutes - especially if you have separate blocks (and not just the pads themselves).

Discussed briefly here

To the OP - if all you are going to ride is flat circuits, the wheel weight isn't 'as' important but would still recommend full carbon wheels if you can get them!

DazlerD

Thanks for the replies

I like the sound of the swisstop yellow pads so I can get the Carbon rimmed Reynolds but as Pokerface said i dont think id be happy taking the chance.

So Im airing on the side of the Mavics at the moment.

turboslave

You say you will only use them for racing, are you sure, if once fitted to your race bike you love the look and are likely to keep them on for more general (tart ) riding, then the Mavics would be more suited, they are strong enough for everyday summer training wheels and are more practical in clincher versions.

Both good wheelsets, but it would appear it is now a personal choice which only you can decide upon.

Good luck

TS

fleshtuxedo

Don't think they still do them, but Mavic Cosmic Carbones used to be available as a tubular with an alu rim. You might be able to find a pair of those, put some new decals on, and they'll look grand.

E.g.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mavic-Carbone-SL- ... 43a3c35914

jonmack

FWIW I'm gonna be staring in Cat 4 next season, also racing at Ilton and Castle Combe and I'm gonna be racing on Zipp 404's tubs.

I agree with Pokerface though, how often are you going to be in a massive rush to change blocks and wheels? If you're anything like me, you'll prepare your bike for the race the evening before, so you can unscrew your alu specific blocks, put your yellow swissstops on, and your carbon wheels. When you get home in the evening if you're not too knackered you reverse the process, put your training blocks and wheels on. It'll only take 5-10 minutes to change wheels and pads, I don't think it's that much of a big deal.

Monty Dog

If swapping from clinchers to tubulars, you'll probably need to adjust the pads anyway - I certainly have to with my race wheels.

meanredspider

DazlerD wrote:

They will be used for racing only which will be mainly flat airfield circuit of Ilton and Castle Combe race track.

Careful how fast you enter Quarry corner at Combe... :shock: :oops: :roll:

acidstrato

£1000 set of wheels and then some other numpty sticks his skewers into your spokes and suddenly your flat on your face

Pokerface

acidstrato wrote:

£1000 set of wheels and then some other numpty sticks his skewers into your spokes and suddenly your flat on your face

Dude - seriously? Why even bother getting a bike in the first place with an attitude like that? You might as well stay at home covered in bubble wrap. :roll:

acidstrato

Pokerface wrote:

acidstrato wrote:

£1000 set of wheels and then some other numpty sticks his skewers into your spokes and suddenly your flat on your face

Dude - seriously? Why even bother getting a bike in the first place with an attitude like that? You might as well stay at home covered in bubble wrap. :roll:

just stating facts, it happens. not to many but to some. some very nasty accidents down ilton this summer

Pokerface

Accidents everywhere. Just part of riding!

DazlerD

Yeah there are accidents especially in the 4ths. Its full of riders who watch the tv and think they are Cavendish or Boonen and switch from one to the other without thinking.

I raced in the 4ths only race at Ilton at the end of this season. Some asshole switched to the left to keep up with a break and then when someone else attacked up the right decided he wanted to go there. He completely took the wheel of the girl infront of me and she skidded on her ass for a fair distance before stopping and then i hit her and went over the top. She was cut to f**k, poor girl.

It can be a dangerous game but with novice riders and tracks that go the wrong way (Ilton for instance) it makes it worse than it should be.

Did you see the massive crash on the home stretch at Ilton in August? Now that was horrible.