Explain irony
DonDaddyD
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Many, many times I've read here and elsewhere online the words
"It's ironic that...." or "The irony is"
Only for a person to retort
"Well that's not irony" or "It's not ironic".
Sometimes the person claiming said irony is right and sometimes they're is wrong. What conclusion I've come to is that there seems to be a online misuderstanding of what irony actually is.
So in simple terms for the benefit of the Internet, explain irony.
"It's ironic that...." or "The irony is"
Only for a person to retort
"Well that's not irony" or "It's not ironic".
Sometimes the person claiming said irony is right and sometimes they're is wrong. What conclusion I've come to is that there seems to be a online misuderstanding of what irony actually is.
So in simple terms for the benefit of the Internet, explain irony.
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It's what you do you get the creases out of your shirty.0
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It's like goldy and steely.
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verloren wrote:It's like goldy and steely.It's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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Ah well that solves that then (note use of irony) 8)0
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It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
The trouble with irony is there are different types of irony. Verbal irony might be a statement that's the opposite of the speaker's true feelings; e.g. "oh, well done!" when someone drops your favourite mug and smashes it. "As clear as mud" is an ironic statement, as mud isn't clear at all.
Then there's the ironic situation or happenstance. For example, say a cyclist was wearing a fabric-covered helmet, crashed, and suffered rotational injuries to his neck due to the helmet snagging on the road. That'd be ironic, because a piece of equipment intended to protect him actually caused his injury.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
I'm sure there are other types of irony too, if I cared to think about it more. I suppose the biggest area of potential confusion would be between people who see sarcasm and irony as distinct and separate, and people who see them as two side of the same coin.0 -
A rusty leg joint.0
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i think the key point is that irony is not sarcasm0
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Agent57 wrote:It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
SPOILER!!!!!0 -
Actually I thought DDD posting a thread asking what irony was, was kind of ironic.Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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PBo wrote:Agent57 wrote:It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
SPOILER!!!!!
The irony is,,,, BBC's Merlin is 800 years out of period.
Lucius Artorius Castus lived in the 3rd Century AD.0 -
Agent57 wrote:
The trouble with irony is there are different types of irony.
I disagreeAgent57 wrote:
Then there's the ironic situation or happenstance. For example, say a cyclist was wearing a fabric-covered helmet, crashed, and suffered rotational injuries to his neck due to the helmet snagging on the road. That'd be ironic, because a piece of equipment intended to protect him actually caused his injury.
It's this, and only this.
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PBo wrote:Agent57 wrote:It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
SPOILER!!!!!
Sorry; that revelation was 2 months ago (episode 5). Do you only watch it once it's released on DVD?0 -
Chiggy wrote:PBo wrote:Agent57 wrote:It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
SPOILER!!!!!
The irony is,,,, BBC's Merlin is 800 years out of period.
Lucius Artorius Castus lived in the 3rd Century AD.
That seems more like Alanis style irony, i.e. not0 -
TBH, I don't give a toss what the meaning of the word "irony" is.
Whatever is said, someone disagrees.
Which is nice.0 -
Chiggy wrote:Whatever is said, someone disagrees.
I agree.0 -
I found it particularly ironic, my lord, because I've got a thingy that's shaped like a turnip... I'm a big hit at parties… I hide in the vegetable rack and frighten the children.
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The police here used to display recently crashed cars at the side of the main road into the capital. These written off Landcruisers etc. were stuck on top of concrete plinths presumably to encourage drivers to drive safely, however all it did was to cause drivers to gawp at the gruesome wrecks (myself included). I frequently saw cars swerve off the road beside these monmuments and saw at least three crashes caused by them. A clear case of irony ?0
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Agent57 wrote:PBo wrote:Agent57 wrote:It's like raaiiiin on your wedding day.
Dramatic irony arises when the audience/viewer knows something the characters/cast don't. for example, I was watching "Merlin" recently, and in that Uther believes Morgana is his loyal ward and doesn't know she's his daughter; as a viewer, I know she's an evil cow, out to destroy Uther and take the seat of Camelot for herself.
SPOILER!!!!!
Sorry; that revelation was 2 months ago (episode 5). Do you only watch it once it's released on DVD?
Don't worry - was just having a larf. We do get the DVDs, and my wife and son watch diligently - I tend to keep one eye on it, but not that fussed.0 -
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife, so you throw away all your spoons. At a later date it turns out that actually a spoon would have done to task just as well, if not better. That's irony.Bike/Train commuter: Brompton S2L - "Machete"
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Irony is my girlfriend driving to work cos "it's faster and warmer", then getting work after me and her car heater not working.FCN 2 to 80
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It's kind of a word used to describe life's habit of being a bit of a bastard.
My mum picked up our daughters for a weekend away, the roads were very icy and there was a long drive. I was going to text my mum to remind her to drive slowly. I didn't in case she crashed finding her mobile and reading the txt. This would have been a clear case of irony, or life being a bastard.0
