Cumbrian Cyclists Hit by car - both dead

northernneil
northernneil Posts: 1,549
edited December 2010 in The bottom bracket
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-11924046

not been a great weekend for cyclists

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  • spen666
    spen666 Posts: 17,709
    Was it a car or coach? Story linked to refers to coach?


    Either way, its another tragedy
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  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    Shocking news.
  • rc856
    rc856 Posts: 1,144
    :(
  • CumbrianMan
    CumbrianMan Posts: 240
    My deepest sympathy goes out to the families of the two guys.

    I'm originally from Cumbria, and that A595 at Moota is a lethal section of road. It's one long straight road, where drivers exceed the speed limit as a matter of course. Don't yet know if speed had anything to do with this, or maybe something like low sun in the sky obscuring the drivers view.

    When I was last up there, my route brought me by this section of road, and I just crossed over it and back onto quiet lanes. It's a shame we have to do that sometimes.
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  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    Condolence to there families.

    It really has been a horrific weekend for the cycling fraternity, and serves as a reminder to us all how vulnerable we all are in the persuit of our sport/passtime.
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Awful incident. I'm surprised at how little reaction there has been to it - nothing on the front page that I could see.

    Do we know who they were ?

    Horrible horrible day.
  • hugo15
    hugo15 Posts: 1,101
    They are named in the article below as Christian and Nicholas Townend who were brothers. Very sad newas and my thoughts are with their family

    http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/two-c ... rPath=home
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    spen666 wrote:
    Was it a car or coach? Story linked to refers to coach?

    It was a coach. And when I first read the headline "Two cyclists dead after collision with coach" I must admit I was confused. I thought they crashed into a person (coach), not a bus.

    Not a joke - and condolences to the families.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Awful - and a quick google shows Christian was a very good racer too.

    Could have been any one of us.
  • Buckled_Rims
    Buckled_Rims Posts: 1,648
    CumbrianMan wrote:
    My deepest sympathy goes out to the families of the two guys.

    I'm originally from Cumbria, and that A595 at Moota is a lethal section of road. It's one long straight road, where drivers exceed the speed limit as a matter of course. Don't yet know if speed had anything to do with this, or maybe something like low sun in the sky obscuring the drivers view.
    ...

    I've driven up that section many times as my sister lives in Cockermouth and know the road is fast and furious.

    What a huge tragedy for the family, my heart genuinely goes out to them.
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  • AndyD2574
    AndyD2574 Posts: 1,034
    Awful news.
    Really sad.
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  • Skeltron
    Skeltron Posts: 72
    Coaches are limited to 100kph (approx 62.5mph). I doubt it was speed, a coach can kill you at 20mph. More than likely driver 'error'.

    I've driven coaches & buses since 2001 and companies often push their drivers to the limit. I've not worked since January after a row with my employer at the time, over a shift that started at 5am and finished at 6am the next day (25 hours on my own).
    Apparently it was legal (not in my opinion - ie where driver send their breaks). I accused my bosses of having no morals and being more concerned with money than safety. I felt physically sick I was so tired. I was sacked shortly after.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    its an accident blackspot that stretch
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  • carrock
    carrock Posts: 1,103
    CumbrianMan wrote:
    My deepest sympathy goes out to the families of the two guys.

    I'm originally from Cumbria, and that A595 at Moota is a lethal section of road. It's one long straight road, where drivers exceed the speed limit as a matter of course. Don't yet know if speed had anything to do with this, or maybe something like low sun in the sky obscuring the drivers view.

    When I was last up there, my route brought me by this section of road, and I just crossed over it and back onto quiet lanes. It's a shame we have to do that sometimes.

    It is quite literally a killer road- a few years ago a police motorcyclist was obliterated on that same stretch- it's almost like a motorway in terms of speed

    Which unfortunately begs the question- what the hell were they doing cycling on there- especially if they were local- I 'd sooner cycle on the M25
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    carrock wrote:
    CumbrianMan wrote:
    My deepest sympathy goes out to the families of the two guys.

    I'm originally from Cumbria, and that A595 at Moota is a lethal section of road. It's one long straight road, where drivers exceed the speed limit as a matter of course. Don't yet know if speed had anything to do with this, or maybe something like low sun in the sky obscuring the drivers view.

    When I was last up there, my route brought me by this section of road, and I just crossed over it and back onto quiet lanes. It's a shame we have to do that sometimes.

    It is quite literally a killer road- a few years ago a police motorcyclist was obliterated on that same stretch- it's almost like a motorway in terms of speed

    Which unfortunately begs the question- what the hell were they doing cycling on there- especially if they were local- I 'd sooner cycle on the M25

    That stretch is about 6 miles from my house. I imagine the reason they were on there was that it's one of only 3 rideable roads from the Cockermouth area at present. I've done it myself for years: up the A66 to Keswick, up to bothel behind Bass lake, then turn left andheead back to Cockermouth on the A595.

    The real problems with that little stretch where this happened are that it has no white line to ride inside, the surface is deformed at the edge and you have to ride further right that you'd like and the overhanging trees make it difficult for drivers to pickyou up at distance, that and the low sun seem to have caused this tragedy.

    I didn't know either of the lads well, my little brother is good mates with their younger brother... christian used to do the Tuesday night TTs from time to time and once copped off with a girl I was after when we were 14. Nobody had a bad word to say about them at all though

    RIP
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  • johnboy183
    johnboy183 Posts: 832
    can only echo above comments about sad loss
  • johnboy183
    johnboy183 Posts: 832
    can only echo above comments about sad loss

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