Middle Class Crisis at Christmas!
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im starting a collection for this poor unfortunate lady if you wish to donate log onto selfish barsteward.com
my daughter recently made a shoe box and we spent £10 filling it with gifts to be sent to africa.
i was proud of her and it reminded me that its the simple things in life we should be greatful for a roof over our heads food on the table and the love of our family.
there are children in the world who dont know where the next meal is coming from,living on the streets and when their at their lowest ebb they dont even have the warmth and love of someone who cares from them.
maybe this lady needs to go see them and count her blessings as the saying goes i cried cos i had no shoes till i met a man who had no feet0 -
FleshTuxedo wrote:Aren't the press teeming with (oh god please forgive me) women like her who are paid to trot out reams of this 'yummy mummy' vacuous bollocks week after week? I tend to read the Guardian of a weekend, and Lucy Mangan is their resident middle class mother stereotype wittering about pony clubs/ballet/pyjama parties etc etc with no apparent purpose whatsoever. I used to read the Sunday Times but had to give it up as I couldn't stand the London-centric championing of £500 riding boots/facials/fireplace decorations and the constant drip feed of materialist brainwashing for the bored and loaded.
Yeah this rings true for me, there only seems to be newspapers at each end of the spectrum, I can't read the red tops due to the vacuous nonsense that fills them but at the same time the 'broadsheets' have a lot of stuff that is so far away from most people's lives as well. Having had a very modest upbringing meant reading an article in The Times where someone was seriously whining about being unable to find a decent nanny for less than 25k a year left me wondering why I was reading such a paper.0 -
verylonglegs wrote:FleshTuxedo wrote:Aren't the press teeming with (oh god please forgive me) women like her who are paid to trot out reams of this 'yummy mummy' vacuous bollocks week after week? I tend to read the Guardian of a weekend, and Lucy Mangan is their resident middle class mother stereotype wittering about pony clubs/ballet/pyjama parties etc etc with no apparent purpose whatsoever. I used to read the Sunday Times but had to give it up as I couldn't stand the London-centric championing of £500 riding boots/facials/fireplace decorations and the constant drip feed of materialist brainwashing for the bored and loaded.
Yeah this rings true for me, there only seems to be newspapers at each end of the spectrum, I can't read the red tops due to the vacuous nonsense that fills them but at the same time the 'broadsheets' have a lot of stuff that is so far away from most people's lives as well. Having had a very modest upbringing meant reading an article in The Times where someone was seriously whining about being unable to find a decent nanny for less than 25k a year left me wondering why I was reading such a paper.
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I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago for this reason.0 -
I think you lot are being a little unfair - possibly a bit of schadenfreude.
If you have got used to having three houses and suddenly you are living in a 2 room flat between four of you and you can't afford tickets to the pantomime then it's going to come as something of a shock.
I reckon it's a story - there's a lot of people in this country that have enjoyed if not quite her former lifestyle then a stable income that covered a mortgage, car, maybe a holiday each year who are now struggling or fearing slipping into struggling to afford those things.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
Tom Butcher wrote:I think you lot are being a little unfair - possibly a bit of schadenfreude.
I don't think that this is schadenfreude. That would be taking pleasure in other people's misery, whereas posters on here are just laughing at a woman stupid enough to write a moaning article in a national daily about only getting £500/week (no mention of what her husband gets), while over a million people have lost their jobs, others have had to take pay cuts and others have very little security.0 -
johnfinch wrote:Tom Butcher wrote:I think you lot are being a little unfair - possibly a bit of schadenfreude.
I don't think that this is schadenfreude. That would be taking pleasure in other people's misery, whereas posters on here are just laughing at a woman stupid enough to write a moaning article in a national daily about only getting £500/week (no mention of what her husband gets), while over a million people have lost their jobs, others have had to take pay cuts and others have very little security.
Well said, that man.
Mrs metcalf seriuosly lacks perspective.0 -
OffTheBackAdam wrote:Middle-class?
She earned 60 grand a week, had 2 houses in London & bought a country retreat too.
Funny idea of middle class.
:? In the article, she said she used to earn 1200 quid a week, (now down to about 500)? That would have been, erm, 60 grand a YEAR, which sounds decidedly middle class to me.
Anyhoo, haven't you lot got a good lynching to organise instead of cyber-heckling some poor dear struggling with a budget for the first time?Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0 -
I earned nearly £1200 per week once, working in North America. I kept my little semi in Birmingham and banked the cash for a rainy/sunny day, whichever came along.
Now I'm down to £500 p/w ish in my little semi in Brum, buying whatever bike I wish. Some on a whim, but most of them for a purpose.
I run a new car every two years and don't have a mortgage.
No flambouyancy when I was flush. No second house in the country.
"A fool and HER money are easily parted".0 -
NapoleonD wrote:I was just checking to see if homosexual immigrants had affected Cheshire house prices when I stumbled upon it.
Nouveau Pauvre, Love it, I myself being vieux pauvres, have no time for these Johnny come latelys!0 -
Valid and interesting posting NapD, but we shouldn't really be incredulous about what that sad shitrag excuse for a newspaper prints by now should we?
I might write her a reply pointing out that by NOT having 3 houses and blowing money on lavish gifts for distant relations just to be ostentatious (aka living within one's means) I have no such worries and besides my family having all they need - not want - I'm currently able to blow a small fortune building a new bike that I want - not need! :P2011 Bianchi D2 Cavaria in celeste (of course!)
2011 Enigma Echo 57cm in naked Ti
2009 Orange G2 19" in, erm orange0 -
NapoleonD wrote:I was just checking to see if homosexual immigrants had affected Cheshire house prices when I stumbled upon it.
I had a meeting in Hale last week and spotted 3 Bentlys and and a gaggle of Range Rovers and Porche Cayennes whilst driving down the high street, I think Cheshire is safe for the moment!
Do you have the twitter link?0 -
Cheshire will always be safe! A lot of those cars are paid for by someone else via a firms budget, private patients and or good accountancy. Pity they can't drive them safely.M.Rushton0
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Her situation is just typical of so may people in the last ten years both rich and poor. They really did think that things would only ever get better only to find out that the New Labour miracle was really just the emperors new clothes.
Not wanting to sound smug but after I bought my first house in 2003 as a single man with a good job I concentrated on paying off my mortgage as quickly as possible. So many people I knew were buying new TVs and cars or jumping on the buy to let bandwagon, sometimes I thought maybe I was being too cautious but am bloody glad I was now."I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0 -
Chip \'oyler wrote:Surely this was written 'tongue in cheek'?
I can't for one minute belief that it was written seriously.
I hope to god I'm right. If not she wants stoning.
It must have been.
Surely someone can't be that stupid?0 -
Not so much stupid just in a lifestyle. It must be very easy to get used to a lot of money. She may have a husband who makes similar or more money and the bank will always lend you more. I used to work in Child Psychiatry and due to a shortage, one could become a Consultant in your early 30's. Back then, the salary was £50k+, now it's more like £70k. So if two of you have that sort of job there is £140k pa and that's without any private work/bonuses etc. and that salary is good until you retire. Not everyone makes that money but you'll be surprised how many £50k jobs are out there esp. in the Public Sector. I now work at a Uni and yes there are a lot of staff on £25k approx, but a lot are on £35k and upwards plus perks such as 'working from home', flying abroad and keeping the airmiles, free IPhones,Macbooks etcM.Rushton0
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mrushton wrote:Not so much stupid just in a lifestyle. It must be very easy to get used to a lot of money. She may have a husband who makes similar or more money and the bank will always lend you more. I used to work in Child Psychiatry and due to a shortage, one could become a Consultant in your early 30's. Back then, the salary was £50k+, now it's more like £70k. So if two of you have that sort of job there is £140k pa and that's without any private work/bonuses etc. and that salary is good until you retire. Not everyone makes that money but you'll be surprised how many £50k jobs are out there esp. in the Public Sector. I now work at a Uni and yes there are a lot of staff on £25k approx, but a lot are on £35k and upwards plus perks such as 'working from home', flying abroad and keeping the airmiles, free IPhones,Macbooks etc
I understand it's a lifestyle, but surely even people in her situation can see how these comments might come across to others less fortunate?
I earn quite well and have a pretty nice life, but I try not to rub it in the face of those around me who perhaps don't have as much. And she's supposed to be a writer as well..0 -
Sigh.
Admittedly 25k a year is not loads if that's your families sole income and you live in West London, but still....
I've just finished reading "Shake hands with the Devil" by Gen. Romeo Dallaire (excellent book btw). It charts the experiences of Dallaire, the UNAMIR CO, as Rwanda descended into civil war and genocide.
For me, it put things like Christmas into more of a perspective."I hold it true, what'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost;
Than never to have loved at all."
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Comes to something when even the Mail readers are deriding her! I thought I was doing reasonably well earnings wise compared to many and yet I earn less than her "only £500 per week". Ultimately it is her like that caused the financial meltdown more than the bankers, borrowing money that couldn't be repaid and forcing up property prices. Self-obsessed cow.0
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dmclite wrote:Chip \'oyler wrote:Surely this was written 'tongue in cheek'?
I can't for one minute belief that it was written seriously.
I hope to god I'm right. If not she wants stoning.
Unfortunately, I think she is serious, the dopey mare. Bet her kids have got daft names as well.0 -
afx237vi wrote:OffTheBackAdam wrote:Middle-class?
She earned 60 grand a week, had 2 houses in London & bought a country retreat too.
Funny idea of middle class.
One of the most ROFLtastic things about the royal wedding yawnfest was the media's continuing description of Kate Middleton as middle-class. Maybe in some kind of alternate universe...
It's an Orwellian idea of middle class – i.e. some are more 'middle class' than others.0 -
Her 'earning 500 quid a week' is probably her bring home pay...0
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verylonglegs wrote:FleshTuxedo wrote:Aren't the press teeming with (oh god please forgive me) women like her who are paid to trot out reams of this 'yummy mummy' vacuous bollocks week after week? I tend to read the Guardian of a weekend, and Lucy Mangan is their resident middle class mother stereotype wittering about pony clubs/ballet/pyjama parties etc etc with no apparent purpose whatsoever. I used to read the Sunday Times but had to give it up as I couldn't stand the London-centric championing of £500 riding boots/facials/fireplace decorations and the constant drip feed of materialist brainwashing for the bored and loaded.
Yeah this rings true for me, there only seems to be newspapers at each end of the spectrum, I can't read the red tops due to the vacuous nonsense that fills them but at the same time the 'broadsheets' have a lot of stuff that is so far away from most people's lives as well. Having had a very modest upbringing meant reading an article in The Times where someone was seriously whining about being unable to find a decent nanny for less than 25k a year left me wondering why I was reading such a paper.
The editorial is materialistic in order to be attractive to advertisers who keep the paper in business and the web site free to read. So long as they have some pieces worth reading you can always filter out the other stuff.0 -
There's an entire forum for this kind of thing!0
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Has gullible been taken out of the dictionary? :roll:Mens agitat molem0
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FleshTuxedo wrote:Aren't the press teeming with (oh god please forgive me) women like her who are paid to trot out reams of this 'yummy mummy' vacuous bollocks week after week? I tend to read the Guardian of a weekend, and Lucy Mangan is their resident middle class mother stereotype wittering about pony clubs/ballet/pyjama parties etc etc with no apparent purpose whatsoever. I used to read the Sunday Times but had to give it up as I couldn't stand the London-centric championing of £500 riding boots/facials/fireplace decorations and the constant drip feed of materialist brainwashing for the bored and loaded.
This is one of my pet hates. Lucy Mangan was a fairly good columnist until she gave birth. See also the file marked 'Zoe Williams' and 'Barbara Ellen'. Last time I tried reading the Guardian Saturday magazine I got less that halfway and gave up.
Surely, surely this Mail article is a p*ss-take...0 -
Le Commentateur wrote:verylonglegs wrote:FleshTuxedo wrote:Aren't the press teeming with (oh god please forgive me) women like her who are paid to trot out reams of this 'yummy mummy' vacuous bollocks week after week? I tend to read the Guardian of a weekend, and Lucy Mangan is their resident middle class mother stereotype wittering about pony clubs/ballet/pyjama parties etc etc with no apparent purpose whatsoever. I used to read the Sunday Times but had to give it up as I couldn't stand the London-centric championing of £500 riding boots/facials/fireplace decorations and the constant drip feed of materialist brainwashing for the bored and loaded.
Yeah this rings true for me, there only seems to be newspapers at each end of the spectrum, I can't read the red tops due to the vacuous nonsense that fills them but at the same time the 'broadsheets' have a lot of stuff that is so far away from most people's lives as well. Having had a very modest upbringing meant reading an article in The Times where someone was seriously whining about being unable to find a decent nanny for less than 25k a year left me wondering why I was reading such a paper.
The editorial is materialistic in order to be attractive to advertisers who keep the paper in business and the web site free to read. So long as they have some pieces worth reading you can always filter out the other stuff.
I filtered it out by not buying it. The Times is no longer free online either, it went behind a paywall in the summer I think.0