Jamis Bosanova
prawny
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Just spotted this on the evans site, bit of a bargain I reckon and good looking too. New perfect commuter? Discuss
Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 2017
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 2017
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It's a good looking machine!
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lost_in_thought wrote:It's a good looking machine!
*goes to Evans site...
Pick me one up while you're there? I'll pay you back next time I see you, promise.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
Sun - Cervelo R3
Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:I can't find it...
Here y'ar
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jam ... e-ec025746Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
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Asprilla wrote:You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.
Pray tell, I know nothing these days about discs, my mtb has MX2s on :oops:Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
prawny wrote:Asprilla wrote:You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.
Pray tell, I know nothing these days about discs, my mtb has MX2s on :oops:
The BB5s are just no-where near as good and need constant adjustment where as the BB7s are more fit and forget with only minor adjustment as the pads wear.
Mine came with BB5s and I put up with them for a month before swapping for the 7s and selling the old ones on ebay.Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
Sun - Cervelo R3
Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX0 -
JonGinge wrote:
Shaddap!
I can swallow today, I reckon I'll be able to open my mouth by the weekend, so back on the bike monday, long route to work? In the snow. Hmmm.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
That's a smart looking bike and a good spec, but:
1. The handlebars appear to be directed at Mars
2. The mudguards are totally rank
3. For me, the perfect townie would have hub gears and belt drive - and possibly flat bars
But I guess it's not that bad, mmmmquiteniceactuallymmmmmm
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...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?
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SecretSam wrote:...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?
But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...
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Underscore wrote:SecretSam wrote:...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?
But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...
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Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).
In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...
Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!
Cheers,
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Looks like a hybrid with a drop bar to me. Heavy, steel frame, MTB components...
If it had a flat bar on it you'd all hate it. :twisted:Rules are for fools.0 -
WGWarburton wrote:Underscore wrote:SecretSam wrote:...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?
But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...
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Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).
In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...
Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!
Cheers,
W.
+1 as a tourer / heavy commuter it looks fine i carry maybe 20llbs of stuff for commuting so a few extra pounds on a bike makes no odds to me.FCN 3/5/90 -
Waddlie wrote:Looks like a hybrid with a drop bar to me. Heavy, steel frame, MTB components...
If it had a flat bar on it you'd all hate it. :twisted:
Sounds perfect to me, infact it's only flat bars that puts me off most hybrids. Even then i accept they have their place, just not for me.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.
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lost_in_thought wrote:I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.
I may be slightly biased.
Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
prawny wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.
I may be slightly biased.
Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.
Don't need disc brakes!
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WGWarburton wrote:Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).
In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...
Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!
Cheers,
W.
TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
£800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...
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Underscore wrote:WGWarburton wrote:Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).
In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...
Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!
Cheers,
W.
TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
£800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...
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Or that Genesis loon machine in orange that they just tested in C+ - either that or the on one seem near perfect to me [starts fondling wallet...]
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lost_in_thought wrote:prawny wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.
I may be slightly biased.
Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.
Don't need disc brakes!
And the Janis has a carbon fork too, no?
I want discs for consistant performance but mainly for rim wear, i cant be bothered to bet new rims every year. Carbon fork desn't bother me really, probably woul prefer steel though.
I like the pompetamine and the day one, but i'm not sure about the gear spacing or getting the wheel out to fix flats. Might have to try one.Saracen Tenet 3 - 2015 - Dead - Replaced with a Hack Frame
Voodoo Bizango - 2014 - Dead - Hit by a car
Vitus Sentier VRS - 20170 -
Underscore wrote:TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
£800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...
and pedals.. You can see why it's dangerous to quote weights in adverts!
That looks like a decent commuting bike, certainly. I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.
Cheers,
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WGWarburton wrote:I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.
Well, Mark Beaumont seems happy enough with one!
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P.S. Yes, I know that is a very different (and more expensive) hub gear...0 -
Underscore wrote:WGWarburton wrote:I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.
Well, Mark Beaumont seems happy enough with one!
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P.S. Yes, I know that is a very different (and more expensive) hub gear...
Yeah... I'd call that an expedition bike rather than a touring one, too! I was surprised by his lack of mechanical aptitude on the "biked the Americas" programme...he seemed to find a worn BB more of a mechanical challenge than I would have expected. Maybe the choice of hub gear reflects that..?
Cheers,
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