Jamis Bosanova

prawny
prawny Posts: 5,440
edited November 2010 in Commuting chat
Just spotted this on the evans site, bit of a bargain I reckon and good looking too. New perfect commuter? Discuss

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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    It's a good looking machine!

    *goes to Evans site...
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    I can't find it... :cry:
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    It's a good looking machine!

    *goes to Evans site...

    Pick me one up while you're there? I'll pay you back next time I see you, promise.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I can't find it... :cry:

    Here y'ar

    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jam ... e-ec025746
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jam ... uery=jamis
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    Asprilla wrote:
    You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.

    Pray tell, I know nothing these days about discs, my mtb has MX2s on :oops:
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    JonGinge wrote:
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jamis/bosanova-2011-touring-bike-ec025746?query=jamis

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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    prawny wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jamis/bosanova-2011-touring-bike-ec025746?query=jamis

    WHOOSH2%5B1%5D.gif

    I'm like the wind
    heh heh. Although in my defence my browser took an aaaage to submit the post. Stupid internets

    BTW look at stats ;)
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    prawny wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    You'll need to budget changing the BB5s for BB7s, or for hair transplants.

    Pray tell, I know nothing these days about discs, my mtb has MX2s on :oops:

    The BB5s are just no-where near as good and need constant adjustment where as the BB7s are more fit and forget with only minor adjustment as the pads wear.

    Mine came with BB5s and I put up with them for a month before swapping for the 7s and selling the old ones on ebay.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    JonGinge wrote:
    prawny wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    I'm like the wind
    heh heh. Although in my defence my browser took an aaaage to submit the post. Stupid internets

    BTW look at stats ;)

    Shaddap!

    I can swallow today, I reckon I'll be able to open my mouth by the weekend, so back on the bike monday, long route to work? In the snow. Hmmm.
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    That's a smart looking bike and a good spec, but:
    1. The handlebars appear to be directed at Mars
    2. The mudguards are totally rank
    3. For me, the perfect townie would have hub gears and belt drive - and possibly flat bars

    But I guess it's not that bad, mmmmquiteniceactuallymmmmmm
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    SecretSam wrote:
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?

    Yeah, that can't be right can it? Or is that for a size xxxxxl
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  • Underscore
    Underscore Posts: 730
    SecretSam wrote:
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?

    But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...

    _
  • wgwarburton
    wgwarburton Posts: 1,863
    Underscore wrote:
    SecretSam wrote:
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?

    But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...
    _

    Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).

    In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...

    Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!

    Cheers,
    W.
  • waddlie
    waddlie Posts: 542
    Looks like a hybrid with a drop bar to me. Heavy, steel frame, MTB components...

    If it had a flat bar on it you'd all hate it. :twisted:
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  • cyberknight
    cyberknight Posts: 1,238
    WGWarburton wrote:
    Underscore wrote:
    SecretSam wrote:
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?

    But it claims to be a touring bike so it's bound to be heavy - an extra few pounds pales into insignificance once you've strapped on several tens of pounds of panniers and tents - but then they've fitted a carbon fork (no braze-ons for lowriders here) and it only has a 30t granny and a 26t on the back. Looks a bit like a bike that isn't quite sure what it wants to be...
    _

    Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).

    In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...

    Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!

    Cheers,
    W.

    +1 as a tourer / heavy commuter it looks fine i carry maybe 20llbs of stuff for commuting so a few extra pounds on a bike makes no odds to me.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    Waddlie wrote:
    Looks like a hybrid with a drop bar to me. Heavy, steel frame, MTB components...

    If it had a flat bar on it you'd all hate it. :twisted:

    Sounds perfect to me, infact it's only flat bars that puts me off most hybrids. Even then i accept they have their place, just not for me.
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.

    I may be slightly biased.
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.

    I may be slightly biased.

    Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    SecretSam wrote:
    ...and it weighs HOW MUCH!?!?!?!?!!?

    About 2lb lighter than my alfine then.......
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    prawny wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.

    I may be slightly biased.

    Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.

    Don't need disc brakes!

    And the Janis has a carbon fork too, no?
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  • Underscore
    Underscore Posts: 730
    WGWarburton wrote:
    Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).

    In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...

    Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!

    Cheers,
    W.

    TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
    CBOOPOMPETVERSA_P1.jpg
    £800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...

    _
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    Underscore wrote:
    WGWarburton wrote:
    Looks like a good "light tourer" to me (light as in traveliing light, w/o tent + cooking gear).

    In that context I guess the fork makes sense and the gearing seems more than adequate... I was wondering what the point of a 50x11 would be, TBH, rather than the 30x26!! I guess the discs add weight, the mudguards & pedals are included in that total and the frame is built for strength and ride quality, not for lightness...

    Perfect commuter? Maybe not perfect, but a LOT closer than most!!

    Cheers,
    W.

    TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
    CBOOPOMPETVERSA_P1.jpg
    £800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...

    _

    Or that Genesis loon machine in orange that they just tested in C+ - either that or the on one seem near perfect to me [starts fondling wallet...]
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    prawny wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I think I'd prefer the Tifosi CK7.

    I may be slightly biased.

    Disc brakes though, and a steel frame, not that the tifosi isn't lovely, just not quite right for a commuter imo.

    Don't need disc brakes!

    And the Janis has a carbon fork too, no?

    I want discs for consistant performance but mainly for rim wear, i cant be bothered to bet new rims every year. Carbon fork desn't bother me really, probably woul prefer steel though.

    I like the pompetamine and the day one, but i'm not sure about the gear spacing or getting the wheel out to fix flats. Might have to try one.
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  • wgwarburton
    wgwarburton Posts: 1,863
    Underscore wrote:
    TBH, if I wanted a light tourer/commuter, I would be more inclined to go in the direction of a On-one Pompetamine:
    CBOOPOMPETVERSA_P1.jpg
    £800 for an Alfine-based build with either drop or flat bars (in fact the flat bar version is even cheaper)... and 5lb lighter than the Jamis (albeit a bit less after you've added a rack and gaurds...)... and comes with BB7s rather than BB5s...

    and pedals.. You can see why it's dangerous to quote weights in adverts!

    That looks like a decent commuting bike, certainly. I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.

    Cheers,
    W.
  • Underscore
    Underscore Posts: 730
    WGWarburton wrote:
    I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.

    Well, Mark Beaumont seems happy enough with one!

    _

    P.S. Yes, I know that is a very different (and more expensive) hub gear...
  • wgwarburton
    wgwarburton Posts: 1,863
    Underscore wrote:
    WGWarburton wrote:
    I'm not sure a hub gear would be my first choice for touring, though.

    Well, Mark Beaumont seems happy enough with one!

    _

    P.S. Yes, I know that is a very different (and more expensive) hub gear...

    Yeah... I'd call that an expedition bike rather than a touring one, too! I was surprised by his lack of mechanical aptitude on the "biked the Americas" programme...he seemed to find a worn BB more of a mechanical challenge than I would have expected. Maybe the choice of hub gear reflects that..?

    Cheers,
    W.

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