vulcan build with juicy fives and recon or rebas???

kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
edited November 2010 in MTB buying advice
ive scrappdd the idea of the fury and gt and am thinking of buying the vulcan v spec as it is supose to be a good frame a starter bike. Plus halfords cnt reli screw it up as its quite a basic bike to set up.going to put some avid juicy 5 or mayb 3 nt sure yet and also some rockshox recon or reba forks.id like the bike to be as maintenance free as possible. what amount of travel can i run without ruining the geometry of the bike i imagine it would be 120max?? jst wnted to know if u had any comments or suggestions?cheers

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    What is your budget? I can't help feeling that by spending the money like that you'll end up with a bike with a 'lopsided' spec with the rest inferior to your high spec add ons, you'll need better tyres and then wheels and crankset in short order.....

    Stock travel on a Vulcan is 100mm I believe, so 120mm will already be making it feel 'lazy' if its reflected in the axle to crown distance.

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
    dnt hav a budget reli obviously nothing ludicrously expensive.the idea if the vulcan was to get sumet that cost little so if i didnt keep to riding it wouldnt be a big loss but if i did keep to it the frame would be good eniugh to upgrade with better parts that was the idea anyway.if i was going to put five inch travel forks what else would i need to upgrade to stop the steering from being lazy?
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Wouldn’t bother....why buy a bike and then chuck money at it !!!! the V spec has rim brakes so upgrading to Juicy 5 you will also need a new wheel set...so £230 for the bike another £120 for a set of disc compatible wheels, another £150 for the brakes, at least £250 for the fork....so your at £750 for a average spec bike (as your groupset will still be crap)....you would be mad not to buy the Fury or look around at the 2010 sale bikes...

    Plus as incompetent as some Halfords are I am sure they will do a better job of building a bike out of a box rather than you faffing around fitting forks and brakes etc....also you will have a 12 month warranty on a bike out of the box, you won't if you start changing major components...

    Pud
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    You can't 'upgrade' bits to correct the geometry (head angle) you've changed by fitting forks that are too long, well except for reframing the bike with a frame designed for them!

    I think you need to learn to walk before trying to run, get a good sound bike at your target budget, learn to ride it, then and only then start thinking of messing with it would be my advice!

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    The frame on the vulcan is decent, but it still doesn't make any sense to buy with plans to upgrade, you'll aways get something better for the same money if you buy complete.
    Uncompromising extremist
  • kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
    as you can tell im a bit of a novice,just toying around with a few ideas. In tat case what sub 600 pound bikes would you reccomend? Ideally hydro discs,good or decent fork and sumetthats nt going to break?the bike would be used mainly for trails
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Any of these if they have your size !

    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.p ... 1b0s2p1938
    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.p ... 1b0s2p2231
    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.p ... 1b0s2p2288
    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/products.p ... 1b0s2p1493

    Pud
    Tomac Synper 140 Giant XTC Alliance 1
    If the world was flat, I wouldn't be riding !
  • kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
    cheers
  • mac_man
    mac_man Posts: 918
    Or try a mint condition 2nd hand bike. Checking a bike over is not as tricky as it sounds if you get one that's barely used.

    There's plenty of advice on t'internet as to what to look for. You can just tell from it's condition if it's been used much... scratches etc. Then check gears, brakes, whether the wheels are straight, or the frame is bent etc. I've bought 3 in the last year for different people... the best being a really good GT Agressor which retail at Halfords for around £700. Got it down to £300. Really good spec and absolutely mint.

    Most bikes are worth around 50% of their value after a year. You should be able to get a 2nd hand Fury, or a Rockhopper for around £300 - £350
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  • Shotsaway
    Shotsaway Posts: 175
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
    as you can tell im a bit of a novice,just toying around with a few ideas. In tat case what sub 600 pound bikes would you reccomend? Ideally hydro discs,good or decent fork and sumetthats nt going to break?the bike would be used mainly for trails
    I don't like recommending bikes, as every rider and every bike is different, but have you considered theGT Agresssor XC1 that is sold at Halfords. The bike retails for £649 but Halfords are knocking 20% if you reserve on the web, so it will only cost £519.

    This looks like a good starting point and gives you the opportunity to upgrade in the future

    ■Chainset: Truvativ Blaze 3.1 chainset with sealed bearing BB
    ■Forks: 120mm Travel Marzocchi Bomber 33R with a 15mm thru axle
    ■Brakes: Avid Juicy 3
    ■Front Mech: Shimano Deore
    ■Gear Shifters: Shimano Deore Rapid Fire
    ■Hubs: Formula Disc / Shimano M475
    ■Rear Mech: Shimano SLX Shadow
    ■Rims: Alex DP17 disc rims
    ■Tyres: Maxxis Ignitor 2.3

    Edited Bit: I've just realised that you have already mentioned the XC1 in another thread. You don't say why you have discounted it though?
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Carrera Vengeance
    Hydraulic discs
    120mm RS Tora TK forks
    £400 right now
    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... 65499#dtab

    OK rear mech is a bit cheap (Alivio) but thats a much cheaper easier upgrade than what you suggest!

    VFM wise right now I don't think you can beat it.

    Or the Kraken, fork not as good, better mech's, £20 less
    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... PDPz1#dtab

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
    which grade of aluminium is the better 6061 or 7005 and does it really matter? Whats the difference between them?cheers
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Am I just grumpy today, or does it irritate anyone else that someone asking for help can't even be arsed to try and spell or punctuate anywhere near correctly? Or even use capitals.
    Lazy buggers.

    Rant over.
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  • kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk
    kyle_172@hotmail.co.uk Posts: 113
    Personally i think you are being grumpy, you have to be an english teacher or something of a similar nature. As for the lack of punctuation and spelling, im at work and therefore dont really have the time to do so. That is my excuse anyway :)

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