Downhill skills courses

mrfmilo
mrfmilo Posts: 2,250
edited November 2010 in MTB general
Can anyone recommened some skills days for DH riding? Had a quick look but most seem to be for XC/AM riding. Can be anywhere in England really, possibly Wales.

Cheers

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  • Up at Cannock Chase there is this place who do 1-2-1 DH courses for either intermediate or advanced - was thinking of doing 4 hours with them for £80 to get some confidence for the bigger DH stuff.... Look at the personal skills section for DH stuff

    http://www.thebikeschool.net/
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  • popstar
    popstar Posts: 1,392
    I didn't think downhilling was so much different to XC/AM riding, obviously speeds would be different as well as you may need more tuition in -Mental Skills- as well as work more on -Reading trail / Vision- . Can't say if you ever would be able to ignore basic skills riding and jump off straight away onto DH wagon.
    I could be wrong, but I just can't imagine how without basic core skills you can progress into more finer detail advanced riding. Would highly recommend JEDI but it seems OP is a bit confused or put message across in a wrong way.
    Personally to me, basic skills are the future into understanding and enhancing your limits in riding. Without them, I can't even imagine how rider could enhance Flow* or fine tune his aspects of riding.

    Honestly, once and if you are ready to progress into more advanced stages you just can't ask for that help on forums. A long personal chat with PRO's would be the way to understand your needs even then you would have to ride with them at least to identify your weak links in riding. I know that Jedi can come to your local/favourite spot of riding.

    I would love to be taught in Cwmcarn, -Airstream- is the ideal place to develop and Y Mynydd is icing on the cake.
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  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    popstar wrote:
    I didn't think downhilling was so much different to XC/AM riding,

    Well, true but a lot of people think they're riding fine when actually they're just getting away with it, and it's just the fact that they're only riding fairly forgiving trails that let them. Then they go and do a more challenging course and end up having to climb down out of a tree. Personal experience here :wink: So it's not so much that it's different, it's really the same thing but with the gain turned up but that really exposes every little bad habit and shortfall. And we all have those.
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  • popstar
    popstar Posts: 1,392
    Can't comment about OP just by looking on pics from pinkbike, but Northwind speaks the truth. Speak to the PRO is the way to go. Many of them have their own style of teaching people but it's OP who will choose.
    At the end of day, if you happen to find and speak the same language* as your Tuitor then think he will be the right one. Bike riding is just bike riding really. That's what I have found. Categories = epic fail.
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  • mrfmilo
    mrfmilo Posts: 2,250
    Cheers for the links guys. And i'm not a DH starter, been riding DH for a while (and used to ride XC/AM), so don't need the core skills covering - but my dad has offered me a skills course for christmas so may as well do it :lol:

    And surely DH riding is different to XC/AM when you get a little bit serious? Think of a hard XC trail you ride, and you ride it perfectly with no problems - then think of a technical DH trail which you don't ride, you're gonna struggle if you only ride XC/AM right? Yeah the basics are similar, cornering, weight distribution, roots etc., but you can't really compare directly.

    So basically i'm at an intermediate level (at DH), I race so am mainly looking to get faster, i'd say main hold ups currently are cornering and big rockgardens, as well as the mental side of things.

    The DirtSchool link looks pretty good at the moment :)

    Or i'll scrap the skills course idea and just get some new wheels, which will obviously make me much faster :lol:
  • peter413
    peter413 Posts: 5,120
    I would say go for Dirt School.

    I met the guy that runs it (Chris Ball) the other day at the Borders College about the BASE DH course he runs and he really knows his stuff. I know its a different guy down in Wales but it's still Dirt School
  • Jedi
    Jedi Posts: 827
    thank you for the recommend popstar!
  • mrfmilo
    mrfmilo Posts: 2,250
    Jedi wrote:
    thank you for the recommend popstar!

    Oh sorry didn't see his link :lol:

    Do you have skills days for DH? Where are they held?
  • Thanks pilsburypie, yes Thebikeschool will be running group and 1-2-1 downhill skills courses on Cannock Chase very soon just check out our website www.thebikeschool.net

    And the blog page for tips and advise!

    We are local guys to Cannock Chase and we have a lot to do with chasetrais the volunteer group trail builders ,Adam is the head builder for a new section of trail at Stile Cop and has had some great results at The Racers Guild of Cannock Chase timed events check out http://racersguild.blogspot.com/2010/10 ... ctice.html
  • Jedi
    Jedi Posts: 827
    mrfmilo wrote:
    Jedi wrote:
    thank you for the recommend popstar!

    Oh sorry didn't see his link :lol:

    Do you have skills days for DH? Where are they held?

    I use my own private skills area.

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  • mrfmilo
    mrfmilo Posts: 2,250
    thebikeschool and ukbikeskills (Jedi) both look like good options, cheers everyone for the help :)
  • I've been on a couple of courses with Jedi and I'm riding faster and harder than I've ever ridden before.

    Dialing the basics is so important because as you go faster on steeper more tech trails if those skills are missing or not 100% there then accidents happen. If they are there then you just go faster and with more confidence into sections.

    XC/AM is just slowed down DH.

    Well worth it!!!
  • I did the Dirtschool DH day at Inners a while back. Well worth the cash. A few simple ideas made my riding a fair bit faster and more controlled straight away, and I fully expect to get faster as I master the ideas. The skills also apply directly to non-DH riding, I was a decent rider before but was taking the berms and corners at Glentress a lot faster the other week.

    If you've been riding bikes offroad for a while and never had coaching then I would recommend it, it's a real eye opener. Far better than spending £100 on a shiny new bit.
  • Jedi
    Jedi Posts: 827
    thanks for the recommends bushwacked