will running have a detrimental effect on my cycling

longster
longster Posts: 53
edited November 2010 in Road beginners
as title was thinking of doing 10k twice a week

thanks mark

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  • rc856
    rc856 Posts: 1,144
    Personally, I think a bit of cross training in the winter is great and I'm sure others do it.
    Guess it might depend on what level of cycling you do?
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    If you keep up the same cycling capacity, then no.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    It shouldn't do but it depends on how competitive the running is, your recovery time and diet.
  • Garz
    Garz Posts: 1,155
    If you mix it up from the start then you wont have any weaknesses developing later on. But as danowat mentions you don't want to over-train so keep the running to say one or two 5k runs max in a week.
  • The plain answer is YES, you'll become a cyclocrosser or Triathlete :lol:
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Running builds excellent base fitness and endurance...

    Running means time off the bike so yes you might find that you lose some cycling conditioning, but it definitely has its benefits. Thing is with the nights drawing in, running is a great alternative for keeping active midweek.

    A few fanbois will be quick to deride it, but you have to make your own judgment in that respect.
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  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    Running won't effect your cycling as long as you still cycle a little as well as run, if you don't exercise the muscles that you've built up cycling, the muscles will start to lose strength and mass within 72hrs. The running will hammer your joints but you'll strengthen alot of stabilizer muscles in your legs and it will increase your core fitness.
    Swimming is great for core strength but it can effect cycling, you tend to put muscle mass on your top half which isn't required during cycling, this was an issue for Armstrong, he hit peak after he lost his upper muscle mass during his illness.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Worth adding that running strengthens bones and tendons... which cycling doesn't.

    Don't over think it... just get out there and exercise. :-)
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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Go for it - but start gently- your cardio system will be more prepared than your legs.
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    cougie wrote:
    Go for it - but start gently- your cardio system will be more prepared than your legs.

    Excellent advice, I experienced just this when I started running about 18 months ago. A lifetime of cycling meant I didn't get the usual warning signals that naturally make you slow down or curtail the distance(out of breath, racing heart etc) on my first run, so I just kept on going. I manged the 5 miles easily, but the next day my knee was very sore and it took at least a month for it to get sorted (could have been much worse).

    I now try and do one six mile and one 3 mile run a week, it mixes things up and weather doesn't seem to stop me from going out.
  • lets face it an intense 30 min run in the winter is a bit more appealing than going out on the bike for a couple of hours . article in the new cycling pus mag that explains the benefits of offroad hill running to cycling . ask rob jebb .
  • apart from the general fitness benefits outlined above i find it helps marginally with climbing out of the saddle, this is after having just got back into a 4-6 mile 3-4 times a week running routine. only problem being if i hammer myself with a hard run on a friday i feel a distinct loss of power riding on the following saturday morning.

    dont think i've got my post run recovery quite right but i'm getting there i think, working in an office all day it's nice to get out for a run in the evening, no matter what the weather's doing, you cant help but feel like a hero running up mad hills hard in the rain.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    It's a handy skill to have for when the police come calling.
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    I'm running at present, because I have no alternative!
    Today I ran 13k in little circles... and to cap it all off, I now have a black toe nail, too! That nail only just finished growing too... Seems to happen a lot, if I go over 10k!...
    Back to the bike, soon...
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Ben6899 wrote:

    Don't over think it... just get out there and exercise. :-)

    +1....... I know more than a few triathletes who can really push the pedals AND run AND swim very well. So I don't see why you would think "detrimental" at all.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Its worth getting proper running shoes too - from proper running shop where you can get fitted for them. I'd also think 10k is too far for you to run twice a week unless you have some history of running. 3 runs of say 3 or 4 miles a week would give you more benefit to begin with - but as I said earlier - take it easy.
  • Thanks for all the great advice have only done 3 runs so far of 5 to 8k and do find my legs quite sore afterwards. will stick with it it makes for a nice quick traning session. not as enjoyable as the bike mind.
    mark
  • its never as enjoyable as a fair weather summer bike ride no matter how fantastic the running scenery, having said that there is nothing that compares to the post run feeling or 'rush' for want of a better word.

    if you havent got something already i'd recomend you get yourself an iPod shuffle or similar for running, it makes it so much more tolerable, just dont wash it with your running shorts..

    how long before you enter your first tri or duathlon .. ?
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    hopper1 wrote:
    I'm running at present, because I have no alternative!
    Today I ran 13k in little circles... and to cap it all off, I now have a black toe nail, too! That nail only just finished growing too... Seems to happen a lot, if I go over 10k!...
    Back to the bike, soon...

    Sounds like your running shoes may be a little too small for you.
  • As long as you get enough rest and recovery, no, not really.

    I have started doing a couple 10k runs like you on a Monday and Thursday morning, at first it really effected my cycling, but now makes little or no difference
  • upperoilcan
    upperoilcan Posts: 1,180
    hammerite wrote:
    hopper1 wrote:
    I'm running at present, because I have no alternative!
    Today I ran 13k in little circles... and to cap it all off, I now have a black toe nail, too! That nail only just finished growing too... Seems to happen a lot, if I go over 10k!...
    Back to the bike, soon...

    Sounds like your running shoes may be a little too small for you.

    Agreed, your running shoes should be a half size larger than your usual fit as your feet swell whilst running.

    Or failing that cut your toenails ! :D
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  • hammerite wrote:
    hopper1 wrote:
    I'm running at present, because I have no alternative!
    Today I ran 13k in little circles... and to cap it all off, I now have a black toe nail, too! That nail only just finished growing too... Seems to happen a lot, if I go over 10k!...
    Back to the bike, soon...

    Sounds like your running shoes may be a little too small for you.

    Agreed, your running shoes should be a half size larger than your usual fit as your feet swell whilst running.

    Or failing that cut your toenails ! :D

    Agreed, you should have a fingernails width of room at the end of the shoe to allow for swelling and movement, less than that and you'll start losing toenails. As someone else suggested, get fit for shoes at a running shop and ask for a gait analysis, if you've a tendency to overpronate you would reduce risk of injury by having support in the right place. And up your mileage slowly - helps avoid shin splints.