Today's Poll - What Racing Tyres...
El Capitano
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Again, Modmins & Goderators, I'm putting this thread here as I value the thoughts and comments of the Crudites rather than that of the greater unwashed that is the rest of the Forum.
Really enjoyed racing on the Wormdrives this year, but can't always guarantee nice warm and dry racing conditions... So I need to get something else in preparation for next year. I've got some Racing Ralph's that came on the CX bike, which are very grippy and I'm very impressed with. However, these are only 1" wide, so can't really say how they'd be in 2.1" flavour. These tyres would be used for 12/24 hour endurance events, so need to be a bit of an all-rounder, grippy, (but not for mud-plugging) and fast rolling (but no semi-slick). Weight isn't too much of an issue as all of these can be obtained sub 500g.
I shall await our resident weight weenie expert to reply as I believe he's rather familiar with these tyres...
Really enjoyed racing on the Wormdrives this year, but can't always guarantee nice warm and dry racing conditions... So I need to get something else in preparation for next year. I've got some Racing Ralph's that came on the CX bike, which are very grippy and I'm very impressed with. However, these are only 1" wide, so can't really say how they'd be in 2.1" flavour. These tyres would be used for 12/24 hour endurance events, so need to be a bit of an all-rounder, grippy, (but not for mud-plugging) and fast rolling (but no semi-slick). Weight isn't too much of an issue as all of these can be obtained sub 500g.
I shall await our resident weight weenie expert to reply as I believe he's rather familiar with these tyres...
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Depends on the conditions. I used a 2.25 Nic up front with a 2.25 Ron on the back all through Summer and they seemed to work pretty well for general careless trail riding.
The 2.25 Ron is a bit more aggro than a Ralph but smaller than a 2.25 Nic - lower profile, shallower shoulder blocks - and only 400-ish grams but just as grippy and reliable. I though it would be puncture city when I got it out of the box but it never pinch flatted (95 kg rider, 35 psi-ish) and can be removed and refitted onto a Mavic 719 without using tyre levers.0 -
I vote for Racing Nics. Or Nobby Rons0
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I have some 1.8 Panaracer Fire XC Pro's in 26" flavour in the boot of my car if anyone wants them? i used thes on my Genius when racing last year very fast, not the lightest but a good alternative to the Scwabbles0
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El Capitano wrote:Andy wrote:I vote for Racing Nics. Or Nobby Rons
Link to supplier?
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VWsurfbum wrote:I have some 1.8 Panaracer Fire XC Pro's in 26" flavour in the boot of my car if anyone wants them? i used thes on my Genius when racing last year very fast, not the lightest but a good alternative to the Scwabbles
I've used them in both the 1.8 and 2.1 flavour. Can't fault the 2.1's, not as impressed with the 1.8's. Currently looking for something a bit lighter though.0 -
Andy wrote:El Capitano wrote:Andy wrote:I vote for Racing Nics. Or Nobby Rons
Link to supplier?
http://www.faketyresupplier.com
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yeah the 2.1's are a great alrounder 1.8's are definatly faster but less grippy. i used them at afan once as i forgot my other tyres, flew up the climbs but it was a little more scetchy sory Gnarly on the way down 0
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VWsurfbum wrote:yeah the 2.1's are a great alrounder 1.8's are definatly faster but less grippy. i used them at afan once as i forgot my other tyres, flew up the climbs but it was a little more scetchy sory Gnarly on the way down
What put me off was SITS 2008. Riding along and turning right, but the bike just carried on going straight! They just clogged up with mud and wouldn't 'clear' when you could get some speed up. Granted nothing apart from mud specific tyres would grip, but I just couldn't stay upright on these. Still in the shed through, plenty of grip left...0 -
Last time i rode with NN's i crashed on every ride i did
rolled well, gripped nothing what so ever.. The rest i have no idea about i'm afraid. 0 -
I loved my RRs in 2.25" flavour, althoeven when gloopy out. Nobby nics always delivered in 2.1, had them on the Attack trail and the Yeti. A good all rounder I found.
I am currently running 2.1 larssen TTs which are fast rolling and great in the dry, although I wouldnt run them out on anything gloppy/wet as apparently they clog up very easy and are better on firm/hardpack conditions.
Also, the nevegals on the goose are great 2.3" DC, but may be a bit slow rolling for you.0 -
The Big Cheese wrote:I don't know because I never ride my bike. Go for the best looking tyres.0
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Cheese fella,
Where did you ride the 2.1 NN? I found them totally deadly? in fact, i ahve a pair of hardly used NN 2.1 ones hanging in my garages as i only used them for 2-3 weeks before they were taken off and repalced for my own personal safety.0 -
The RR run tubeless?
If I didn't get bored and change tyres every five minutes this is what I'd try. Supposed to be less fragile than the old ones that I managed to destroy with a bunch of pine cones.
At 460g and 463g each the 1.9 High Rollers I've got are working ok though. Even seem to be a bit better than Sauserwinds in the gloop.Visit Clacton during the School holidays - it's like a never ending freak show.
Who are you calling inbred?0 -
Andy wrote:The Big Cheese wrote:I don't know because I never ride my bike. Go for the best looking tyres.
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Reel it in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0
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I like that people are talking about "RRs" when there are two tyres with that initial.
Anyway, not used any of the tyres listed (because i'm a tight git and would never pay over £30 for tyre). However when I did query the racing Ralphs (tubless) with my LBS I was warned that the sidewalls are a bit flimsy and prone to tearing (this was from an experienced rider and racer who I trust the opinion of).Santa Cruz Chameleon
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Nics dont like thorns, or sharp stones... or anything that even looks pointy. I LOVE the way they handle in the 2.35" flavour I have and they are some of the lightest big volume tyres available but my god they do like enjoy going flat.
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My Ralphs usually leave the tractor tyred brigade eating my dust in XC type trails and I've never had a flat on them despite their delicate reputation. If you do rocky places then the snakeskin version should help, same with the NN's."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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I'm a big fan of Rons, although their longevity isn't their strong point! They're very quick and have decent amounts of grip in most conditions.
I do think the Ralph can be better in mud, as it has more agressive tread on the shoulders. Saying that it's far from a mud tyre, and the Ron's served me very well in some horrendous conditions. I think the Ron is generally a superior tyre.
I'm not that sure Nics are really worth having anymore unless you're riding somewhere very rocky, I've been using one on the front for the last month or so, and they're not bad, but they're still not much cop in proper mud, and slower on hardpack.
Ideally I'd say get a pair of Rons and a Furious Fred. If it's dry then the Fred on the back is excellent, drops over 100g from a Ron, and being on the back it just follows the front! Very fast indeed too.
The new 2011 ones are all tubeless ready if you're running tubeless, although I've always run the normal Evo carcass ones tubeless with no problems at all.0
