Rear Hope 2 pro hub - 10mm bolt thru vs bolt in?

evernas
evernas Posts: 43
edited October 2010 in MTB general
Hi everybody.The title says everything - which one is better,reliable and strongest?and is it true that cassette (if it is Shimano)should be higher than XT?I will appreciate any information.
Thank you
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  • schmako
    schmako Posts: 1,982
    The bolt through will obviously be more robust. However I have QR axles on both my rear wheels (Pro II) and have had 1 problem in the 4 years, the hub exploding (which was a batch problem and was replaced FOC by Hope in 4 days!)

    Edit: And yeah, XT cassette is wise otherwise it apparently munches the engagement pawls on the hub
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    really it depends on what your frame needs.

    a bolt in will not work with a bolt through frame.

    if you want to use a bolt through hub with a Qr frame you will have to find a suitable axle.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • The Hope freehub is a bit soft - an xt cassette is wise as it has a carrier that spreads the load placed on the freehub a bit. You can use a lesser cassette but it does make it a bugger to remove when the rings dig into it, as I found out! Not impossible though! :-)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    As said, depends on the frame.

    I just had a set of wheels made by Freeborn and as I have a frame with quick release dropouts, I was offered the 10mm bolt in as a alternative to normal QR hub.

    The only down side of a bolt in hub is you need a allen key as it has no quick release. But they do feel stiffer and dose make the rear wheel less stealable.

    As for the cassettes, I personally prefer SRAM cassettes, seem to be much harder wearing and cheaper. Most of my drive train is Shimano, but for cassettes and chains SRAM just seem a lot better.
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    SLX works on Hope too. The loose sprockets will still mar the freehub over time, just like any other unreinforced ally hub. Hope say it's only cosmetic, but this is what's known in the trade as "Bull***t". But a steel freehub body is available if you want.
    Schmako wrote:
    (which was a batch problem and was replaced FOC by Hope in 4 days!)

    Must have been a very big batch considering it still happens with new ones :lol: It just seems to be a weakness of the hubs. But it's rare so I don't worry about it, they suit me well.
    Uncompromising extremist
  • schmako
    schmako Posts: 1,982
    Northwind wrote:
    Schmako wrote:
    (which was a batch problem and was replaced FOC by Hope in 4 days!)

    Must have been a very big batch considering it still happens with new ones :lol: It just seems to be a weakness of the hubs. But it's rare so I don't worry about it, they suit me well.

    You think they'd have sorted the problem, they must have a pretty hefty bill from it!
  • richg1979
    richg1979 Posts: 1,087
    RichardSwt wrote:
    As said, depends on the frame.


    The only down side of a bolt in hub is you need a allen key as it has no quick release. But they do feel stiffer and dose make the rear wheel less stealable.


    dt swiss rws 10mm axle sorts extra toolage problem out.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    richg1979 wrote:
    RichardSwt wrote:
    As said, depends on the frame.


    The only down side of a bolt in hub is you need a allen key as it has no quick release. But they do feel stiffer and dose make the rear wheel less stealable.


    dt swiss rws 10mm axle sorts extra toolage problem out.

    but a pain if you have a through axle frame.and may also not fit.

    again it comes down to what the OP is trying to do with what.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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